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Striping tape on AG7750

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#52620From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 9, 1993 2:14 AM
Does anyone know the correct way to black and timecode a SVHS tape on the AG7750. I thought I had done it OK on a client's machine recently but now I'm dropping frames and sometimes a frame will get split into two as if the sync had been lost on that frame. What I did was rewind the tape, running tpclr.exe which sends clears the framebuffer and then hit the record button. The client has a targa+ 64 and a diaquest dq422 in a 486/66 PC. Any hints greatfully accepted. Martin
#52790From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Aug 9, 1993 11:11 PM
Martin, You have to make sure that the TC switch (in the little "pop-out") is set to "pre-set" and also I like to record both VITC and LTC (seems to do a better job single frame with LTC). VITC is turned on in the on-screen set-up menu and LTC is switched on in the "pop-out". See if that works. Ang
#52801From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 10, 1993 12:07 AM
Ang, and then you just hit the record button? Or have it do one long edit? This is where I'm unsure.
#52965From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Aug 10, 1993 9:20 PM
>> record button? Well, I always have used an assemble edit .. but I'm sure just record would work as well Ang
#52989From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 10, 1993 11:18 PM
Ang, thanks, I'll give the assemble edit a try next time I stripe a tape.
#53123From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Aug 11, 1993 8:25 PM
Martin, Are you sure that they have the TC reader/gen card option? As I remember, there is a switch on that card …. it may not be set correctly (don't ask me what setting .. as I remember its pretty obvious). Ang
#53168From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 12, 1993 4:09 AM
Ang, yes the Ag7750 it has all the appropriates parts, including the Faroudja TC reader/generator option. I've been on the phone with Diaquest today and I saw some improvement in the missed frame ratio, but will have to talk to them again tomorrow since "even 1 missed frame is unacceptable" thus quoth the Diaquest dude. (FWIW, they have really pleasant tech support and I was able to get through straight away). It seems to be a persistent problem though and very frustrating. Thanks for the suggestions. Martin
#53186From: Bill HarwoodAug 12, 1993 10:11 AM
As I understand it, Diaquest has always had difficulty dealing with drop-frame code. Is it possible that your tapes were stripped with DF time code. You might try a V-LAN type controller since it does not impose such limitations. I use an ANIMAX which is a V-LAN compatible animation and editing sontroller. I have not experienced any dropped frames DF or NDF. (I also use a Panasonic AG-7750. Good Luck Bill
#53208From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 12, 1993 12:22 PM
Bill, interesting suggestion, but changing controller's is unlikely since the system is a clients, unless the board is faulty, and I'm pretty sure that this setup should work. The diaquest dq422 and dq422+ (the clients model) in combination with the Panasonic AG7750 is a very common setup and I, personally, haven't had this problem before with similar combos.
#53294From: Don LandisAug 13, 1993 12:00 AM
Hey Martin: I had a similar problem a year ago and finally ended up giving up on the wiring as explained in the diaquest manual. I use the sync out from the targa+ to the ref sync in on the diaquest. I record black stripe with the blackburst cable from the diaquest to a terminated video input on the VCR. After recording blackburst end to end I put the targa+ output to the video in replacing the diaquest black burst cable. Leave the sync out from the targa+ hooked up to the ref sync in cable and everything will sync lock. I haven't lost a frame in 13 months averaging 1000 frames per week. James at diaquest tech support doesn't like what I have done but he can't argue with success. Seems that the targa+ / tconfig does not operate stable receiving sync from the diaquest, however the diaquest will lock to external sync very well. It could be that MY diaquest sync generator is defective but I don't care to check it out because it works fine in this setup. Try my hookup, I'd be curious if it works for you too.
#53358From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 13, 1993 2:44 PM
Diver Don, I talked to James yesterday and managed to trace the problem to the cables and too many connectors/converters. One of the cables for ref sync was jury-rigged and seemed to be causing signal loss (from the diaquest ref sync a bnc to rf cable, connected with an rf to bnc converter, then a bnc barrel connector, to the targa+ out sync cable). A real Mickey Mouse cabling setup. I think it's working now with a similar setup to the one you mentioned. Thanks. Martin
#53441From: Don LandisAug 14, 1993 10:34 AM
Glad you got it working OK. By your description it does appear that you're now setup using tha targa sync to lock the system. I wonder why the diaquest setup described in the manual causes so many drop frames. You notice they always use sync out from the diaquest to sync IN on the targa. I could never get that setup to work right.
#52811From: Aug 10, 1993 12:33 AM
Martin: >> Any hints greatfully accepted. Since you are being so polite about it, <g> make sure the edit/normal switch is in the normal position for blacking and in the edit position for recording. Greg Pyros