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Fired Over WIRED

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#34106From: Christopher LapriseAug 11, 1993 1:14 AM
— Fired Over "WIRED" — I just read my first issue of WIRED, the August '93 issue, and although my initial excitement ran high, it didn't last long. The "Desktop MTV" article by Fred Davis on page 84 was disillusioning in that, despite all of the hype in your publication over accessable technology and egalitarianism, the article omitted one of the most important and revolutionary platforms in the desktop video, if not audio, field: The Amiga. CTDV (which to date has outsold, but not out-PR'd, CD-I and VIS) was omitted from your platforms list containing machines not even available yet. Neither was there any mention of Commodore's new model, the CD32 which is based on newer AGA Amigas. And to top it off, there was no mention of the Video Toaster which was used almost exclusively to create the 3D animation in at least 3 music videos by Todd Rundgren (who was featured heavily in the article). After witnessing this apparent effort to avoid the Amiga and Video Toaster (in an article which is followed by an ad for a $30,000 workstaion by SGI), I have doubts about WIRED's journalistic integrity and willingness to stand by the ideals it claims to represent. After scratching the surface, your magazine simply strikes me as ivy-league and elitist; Perhaps in your future issues you will prove this to be only bad first impression. -Christopher Laprise CNR Graphics (home to a Video Toaster 4000)
#34172From: Lou WallaceAug 12, 1993 6:11 PM
Christopher, If you are looking for Desktop Video coverage in a magazine where the AMiga gets a fair shake on a regular basis, perhaps you should be looking at Desktop Video World Magazine. I suspect you will find it to your liking. Lou Wallace Editor-In-Chief, DTVW
#34257From: Andrew LetchfordAug 15, 1993 12:48 PM
Lou, Butting in here. I would like to subscribe to DTVW. Can I get an evaluation copy sent to me in UK together with the international Subscription rates. I will Email the details if this is possible. -=<<<<<< Delivered by Co-Pilot v. 1.4 >>>>>>===-Andrew Letchford=–=UK=-
#34277From: Lou WallaceAug 16, 1993 8:59 AM
Andrew – DTVW is a paid magazine, not o one of the 'freee' trade books around. The best thing to do to see about a comp copy is call our marketing department. The numbeis 800 441 4403 and ask someone there. Lou
#34354From: Andrew LetchfordAug 18, 1993 4:01 PM
Lou, I can't dial 800 numbers from UK. Can you give me a regular number please. -=<<<<<< Delivered by Co-Pilot v. 1.4 >>>>>>===-Andrew Letchford=–=UK=-
#34363From: Lou WallaceAug 18, 1993 8:49 PM
Sure can. It is 603 924 9471. Lou
#34242From: Scott KildallAug 14, 1993 10:25 PM
The article was about interactive music, Chris. Not passive videotape. What connection do you see with the tools you mention? John
#34448From: Christopher LapriseAug 22, 1993 8:02 PM
"What connection do you see with the tools you mention?" CDTV and CD32. They are, after all, the same platform as the Toaster (which also should have at least been mentioned in connection with Todd Rundgren's music video.. The artwork that was produced and animated by the musical artist for the video is bound to be the basis for the interacive releases.) Or is a musical artist producing all of the graphics for his 3d computer-animated videos an angle not worth mentioning? Anyway, the omission of Todd's use of the Toaster made me suspicious, then the omission of CDTV/CD32 in the platforms list made me angry and quite sure that something was wrong.
#34590From: Scott KildallAug 28, 1993 7:35 PM
Chris, Thanks for the additional info. So, which interactive music titles on CDTV or CD32 did you think the article should have covered? What did they miss? What is available? And I'm curious…why would you doubt the magazine's integrity when nothing is written about certain video tools? The article carefully refrains from mentioning any of the authoring, music, and design tools used. It deals with content, not technique. I appreciate how WIRED is about the social issues of new technology, rather than the "my-tool-is-better-than-your-tool" kind of thing. I like its platform-agnostic approach. Wha'dya think of the Drucker article? jd
#34612From: SyndesisAug 29, 1993 10:01 PM
What was this Drucker article about?
#34722From: Scott KildallSep 7, 1993 5:37 AM
Howdy John, An interview with Peter Drucker, on how capital-ism is being replaced by knowledge-ism. About how the success of the government-dictated MITI consortium in Japan is a myth, how the centralized planning tried to push Mazda and Honda et al. out of the auto market, successfully pushed their computer industry into supercomputers instead of workstations, pushed for that damnstupid analog HDTV setup. About the changing nature of intellectual property. About how knowledge, and creativity, and nimbleness, are more important than large amounts of government-printed dollars. I guess it's also about how the grassroots spunkiness of forums like this will replace TV conglomerates, too! <g> Drucker's a crusty guy, saying a lot of smart stuff I can't find in my daily newspaper. Cool article. jd
#34621From: Ron LegroAug 30, 1993 2:22 PM
Cutting in, if I may… "CD Remix" for CDTV (and upwardly compatible to CD32) is a one-of-a-kind program. I've heard of nothing else like it. Bascially, it lets you create interactive CD audios. Amazing, cool, wonderful! Recut your audio CDs with sound effects, drum riffs, digitized speech, edit points, etc., and save the resulting script. It's not the only music title written for CDTV, but it's the best. No doubt, "Wired" has never even heard of it. — Ron Legro from Milwaukee via AUTOPILOT (The only way to fly)
#34637From: Christopher LapriseAug 31, 1993 2:57 PM
Thanks for that bit of info, Ron. Hope you don't mind if I forward it to Wired (editor@wired.com). -Chris
#34677From: Ron LegroSep 3, 1993 10:33 AM
Not at all. In fact, just got a reply via Internet from Wired's associate editor. He seemed very interest, so maybe we'll get a bit of Amiga coverage after all. — Ron Legro from Milwaukee via AUTOPILOT (The only way to fly)
#34723From: Scott KildallSep 7, 1993 5:37 AM
Cool, Ron…sounds like CD Remix has some kind of device control going on with a cd deck, yes? Are sound effects and digitized speech coming off the hard drive? Can you output the mixed version to a tape deck or something? Any references in any of the Amiga mags that you could point me to? thanx–jd
#34731From: Ron LegroSep 7, 1993 1:23 PM
I've never seen "CD Remix" reviewed in depth domestically, although one of the Euromags did a piece on it. "Remix" was mentioned in passing when the CDTV first appeared, but that's about it. "CD Remix" does not need to control an external audio CD player. This is because CDTV (and the A570, and standard CD-ROM units with appropriate device drivers) can play ordinary audio CDs. What "CD Remix" does when you create a script is to load the appropriate drum riffs, sampled sounds, etc., from its own CD-ROM disc into system RAM. Then the program prompts you to unload the "CD Remix" disc and insert the music CD you're remixing. "Remix" (which is running in RAM) thereupon controls the music CD, locating the tracks you've specified, and inserting the effects in the script from RAM during playback. Everything happens within the CDTV player in real time. The only reason you'd need a floppy or hard drive or flash RAM card (CDTV has a port for one) would be to save your remix script, or to load sampled sounds not available on the "Remix" disc (which carries about 500 samples!). If you had an ordinary CD-ROM drive with audio CD capability and a driver like AsimWare or Xetec that can run some CDTV stuff, you might be able to use "CD Remix" with it, too. And yes, you can save the remix to tape or whatever, since it's playing in real time; just hook up the audio outputs to your stereo system amp and dub to the appropriate recorder. By the way, when you run a script, "Remix" also displays a time code and track number on the TV screen. I'm surprised "Remix" has been overlooked. To me it was one of the "killer application" that everyone thought CDTV needed to prosper. But if no one knows about it, that's no help! — Ron Legro from Milwaukee via AUTOPILOT (The only way to fly)
#34636From: Christopher LapriseAug 31, 1993 2:09 PM
To: John 71333,42 CC: editor@wired.com I'm not even sure if they are available for CDTV (interactive music). The artists only mentioned Mac and CD-I in the main article; Yet, this didn't stop them from listing a wide range of CDROM units in the sidebar about different "Platforms" that exist (the sidebar clearly was not intended to show only the ones with interactive-music releases). "Platform-agnostic approach" hardly seems like Wired's style. The mag is replete with references to Mac and MS-DOS platforms, including many little mini-reviews of Mac & MS-DOS products. One Mac product was billed as "The Choice the 3-D Animation" in the title! Wired is very much into mentioning platforms without "my-tool-is-better-than-your-tool" comments as you stated, but it's pretty bad when they can't bring themselves to mention the Amiga. The ommission is pretty obviously a conscious decision. Elsewhere in the issue is also a shameless "plug" article for a digital studio in Hollywood being built with the help of IBM. Umm, 'scuse me, but what does this have to do with revolutionary _consumer_ technology?? HELLO PEOPLE! Yes, here we are.. thousands of us with our OWN Video Toaster studios! This magazine needs to get a clue about the Amiga and the Video Toaster. Otherwise, a large portion of Wired will continue to be nothing more than regurgitation of the clone market's meaningless "revolutionary technology" & multimedia hype. It seems like they are trying to personify the revolutionary spirit that is so strong among Amiga users, yet they come off like Glamour magazine. Or maybe Larry Drucker is right, and the people at Wired think they are off to a head-start by _hoarding_ knowledge about the Amiga & Video Toaster. -Chris
#34471From: Charles BlaquiereAug 23, 1993 10:16 PM
Christopher, I'm also about to send a letter to Wired, complaining about their nonexistent Amiga coverage, especially in articles which feature some of the Amiga's greatest achievements. Blaq!