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#Tapeworm-FS

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#111649From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 27, 1993 7:25 PM
Several months ago I received a flyer from Moonlighter Software regarding a product called Tapeworm-FS. I ordered the product about two months ago and noticed that my VISA card was charged for the software about three weeks ago, but I have never received the product. Since ordering Tapeworm-FS, I have called Moonlighter several times always to be told that the Tapeworm-FS is shipping "next week". Has anyone received Tapeworm-FS that ordered it? Tom
#111692From: Michael GerardAug 28, 1993 11:12 AM
I ordered it as well (several moons ago) and as yet have not seen it show up.
#111729From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 28, 1993 5:10 PM
Mike, Thanks for the info on Tapeworm-FS. Everytime I have called Moonlighter to inquire about this product, I get the reply "It's being shipped next week." Next week never seems to come, but hope springs eternal so maybe next week will really be the one! Tom
#111724From: Roy S. LauferAug 28, 1993 4:23 PM
Tom, How amazing, I ordered Tapeworm-FS from Moonlighter Software just this week, and they told be that they are just waiting for the boxes, and plan to ship NEXT WEEK! I own two pieces of software from this company, and certainly hope they aren't yanking me about T-FS' eta, but I'll be checking my next MasterCard bill closely for any "premature billing" on their part. Then again, I can't seem to remember any company releasing their product EARLIER than than their estimated release date. Good luck to us all!! What tape drive are ou planning to use it with??? // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#111732From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 28, 1993 5:35 PM
Roy, The release date mentioned in the flyer sent out in April on Tapeworm-FS gave a release date of May 1993! I have corresponded with Gary Holland on the Moolighter BBS a couple of days ago and he denies that anyone ever told me they were shipping the product out this week. In fact, I have made four phone calls over three months to Moonlighter regarding Tapeworm-FS and have been told everytime that the product was shipping "next week" and often the bit about "waiting for the boxes" was thrown in. I was charged on VISA for the product three weeks ago and when I complained to Gary Holland about being charged for a product before he shipped it, he stated that this was necessary because "otherwise it would take them three more weeks to write up the charges with VISA for the thousands of orders that they have received and delay shipment of Tapeworm-FS by an additional three weeks". I find that to be nonsense! Indeed, good luck to all of us seems appropriate! If I ever get it, I intend to use Tapeworm-FS with a WangDat Model 1300XL DAT tape drive. Tom
#111861From: Roy S. LauferAug 29, 1993 10:13 PM
Tom, I think Gary was performing a feat of double-speak, justifying charging your card BEFORE shipment of product. It makes great sense for a cash starved company to get the capital to pay for supplies, assuming their credit line isn't what it should be, but that's the job of investors, not consumers! I haven't had any problems with them before (except for that dreadful BBS system they have – I seem to have to call six times to get a complete download of their latest patch files – but atleast they have patch files). I'm a little upset to hear that they've been quoting "a week" for the last three months! I hope that they meant it this time (or atleast something close to a week <g> )! I envy you your WangDat. I "hope" to be using it with my A3070 QIC tape drive – a slower solution than yours. Once again GOOD LUCK (to us all)! // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#111963From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 30, 1993 7:32 PM
Roy (and anyone else reading who has ordered Tapeworm-FS): Could we agree to let each other know via CIS and this forum when we actually receive this product? As of tonight (Monday), I am still waiting to receive Tapeworm-FS. Thanks. Tom
#112138From: Roy S. LauferAug 31, 1993 7:32 PM
Tom, Its a deal! The day I get it, I'll post a message to that effect. I hope that it will be soon. I'd like to clean up my two Syquest cartridges of old stuff, onto some 6150 QIC cartridges (I'd rather not just back them up onto the tape if I don't want to). The recent messages on the forum have caused my enthusiasm to be tempered… // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#112273From: Michael GerardSep 1, 1993 4:15 PM
It's here! My copy of Tapeworm-FS arrived today in today's mail. I haven't had time to play with it (or even open it, for that matter) but it did arrive.
#112294From: Roy S. LauferSep 1, 1993 5:49 PM
Give it a try and post your opinion. I've already gotten a "Not a DOS disk Tape_1 in device TAPE" requester. At this point it MIGHT just be my fault (doing something I shouldn't be doing with it). Post your opinion along with what tape drive your using. // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#112315From: Michael GerardSep 1, 1993 8:16 PM
ok. I'll give it a try this weekend and post my initial impressions. Let us know what your config is and if/how you get it working.
#112323From: THOMAS N. WHEELERSep 1, 1993 8:56 PM
Michael, I just got Tapeworm_FS today as well and I invested over three hours in trying to get it to work with my WangDAT tape drive (Model 1300XL). Incidentally, this tape drive works fine with Amiback. I can get the tape drive recognized in DirOpus, and it appears even to be copying files from my SCSI disk to tape, but when I attempt to read these files back onto the hard disk, I get a busy icon that stays on forever, and sometimes after many minutes it throws up a "not a DOS disk" message. Never have succeeded in accessing a file written to tape with TWFS. Tom
#112422From: Michael GerardSep 2, 1993 11:18 AM
Tom, I installed and tested TWFS today. The 'installer' program didn't do well on my A3000, so as suggested during a call to ML Tech Support, I installed it manually… appending the mountlist entry to my devs:mountlist, copying TapeWorm-FS to L: and moving the program in to a directory, etc. Using my directory utility I copied a directory to tape and then copied it from tape to ram:. It worked just fine. I haven't tried to copy a large amount of data files to tape yet, so I have no idea how slow performance will be, but I wouldn't expect it to be very fast. The docs say that using a scsi-II interface that supports fast reads will greatly speed up operation.
#112679From: Roy S. LauferSep 3, 1993 8:25 PM
Michael, I'm afraid for my purposes the product should be re-named TapeSnail-FS. Imagine being able to copy files at the speed of a slow modem! I haven't been able to copy 5 MB of files any faster than 55 minutes. If you want to copy something FROM the tape be prepared to wait, read a book, do a crossword puzzle, whatever until the file is found! It's very reminiscent of my olde Atari 800 cassette tape drive <ugh>. You also have to be careful to erase the tape totally if you wish to use it again, simply formating it will not be sufficient. When it gets to the end of your new files and find the remains of a previous attempt, it will cough up a "Not a DOS device" requestor and drop dead! I guess that I'm back to my old back up program UNTIL they get the file handler up to some SPEED. Until then, it's more a curiousity to me… // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#112981From: Paul ToalSep 6, 1993 5:09 AM
Why is this Tapeworm device so popular? I always just send the stuff I want via Ami-Back. It doesn't take long to suck out want you want off of an appended tape. Am I missing something? –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#112242From: Roy S. LauferSep 1, 1993 10:13 AM
Thomas, Well… guess what? I JUST got TapeWorm FS in the mail today (so at least Moonlighter Software Development was telling me the truth). I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but its here – you should be getting it soon too! <See we Forum people keep our promises <g>!> // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#112319From: THOMAS N. WHEELERSep 1, 1993 8:17 PM
Roy, Yes, I got my copy of Tapeworm-FS, installed it, and have spent several hours trying to ge it to work with my WangTeck 1300XL DAT drivewithout success. In Directory Opus I am able to get Tape: device recognized and it appears to copy files from my SCSI HD to tape, but when I attempt to read these files back off of tape it goes into long meditation, shuttles the tape back and forth, and finally hangs. Sometimes I finally get a requestor that says Tape_1,(the volume name I gave to the tape device in Tapeworm-FS) is not a DOS disk. So much for the long wait for TapeWorm-FS! Let me know if you are able to get it up and running with your tape drive. Tom
#112680From: Roy S. LauferSep 3, 1993 8:25 PM
Thomas, Have your tried to erase the tape completely BEFORE formatting it with the Tapeworm-FS programs? I've found that old data on the tape can easily confuse Moonlighter's file handler! Give it a try, and tell me if it helped. // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#112842From: THOMAS N. WHEELERSep 4, 1993 10:06 PM
Roy, Thanks for the info. I have had TapeWorm working fine now for a couple of days. I think my many problems the first evening were exactly due to not having the tape completely erased such that old data was confusing TapeWorm's file handler. Tom
#112863From: Forrest McKinneySep 5, 1993 1:31 AM
I am using Tapeworm with the GVP 68040 Comobo with SCSI-II support, and the WangDAT 1300XL, and I get fast good transfer rates, but when I bring stuff back, the files do not work. After looking at them via a HEX read, I notice there is extra padding in front of the files. also after a reboot, and I try to copy off of tape, I get files 0k. I have tried erasing the tape to no avail. Forrest
#112933From: THOMAS N. WHEELERSep 5, 1993 6:20 PM
Forrest, I am using the same DAT drive as you, the WangDAT 1300XL. I have saved several rgb images to tape, then restored them to a different directory on the hard disk, then loaded them from the hard disk into AdPro, Toaster Paint, etc. and found them to display without problem. I have also loaded several text files from tape to the HD, and then read them without problem from the disk in DirOpus. So…so far everything seems to be working O.K. for me with TapeWorm-FS, and I don't see any evidence of corruption or padding of the files by reading them from tape to HD. Also upon rebooting, the tape files show up in DirOpus with the correct file size. Tom
#113292From: Roy S. LauferSep 8, 1993 5:18 PM
Tom, I'm glad that it's working for you, but whether or not I erase my tapes, the thru-put is pathetic! // I'm gonna wait for \X/ the A5000! <G> -RSL-
#111891From: Jamie LloydAug 30, 1993 5:02 AM
Actually this smacks of the fiasco they had with the release of Ami back tools. They did exactly the same thing for that product… it was promised in December, and everyone got billed in December (I was one of them) but the product didn't ship for another two months ! Whilst I like their products, their way of doing business leaves little to be desired. Tim On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
#111962From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 30, 1993 7:32 PM
Jamie, Yes, I experienced the same thing when I ordered AmiBack Tools, i.e. I was charged and paid for the product more than two months before receiving it. I have had good results with Moonlighter's products but their business ethics are questionable. Even worse, when confronted with the premature charging issue, they deny that there is anything unusual about doing this! Tom
#112083From: Jamie LloydAug 31, 1993 11:03 AM
I wonder if they would be keen to pay the two months interest on my Visa bill ! 😉 Tim On AutoPilot Over Hong Kong
#112147From: THOMAS N. WHEELERAug 31, 1993 7:35 PM
Jamie, I expect that Moonlighter would be about as speedy in paying you interest on your VISA bill as they are in shipping Tapeworm-FS. Still waiting for "next week"… Tom