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#Vibrant Drivers

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#115200From: jeff brownJul 29, 1994 1:42 PM
A question for anyone using Micron computers w/ 3DStudio: My local Adesk vendor is also a dealer for Micron; I'm having them give me a quote for some systems, but in a recent review (Computer Shopper, Sept.), the Micron graphics board (Matrox Ultima MGA) scored way low on DOS speed. The system is the "Micron P90PCI Power Station." Is this a concern, or do the Vibrant drivers alleviate system-based redraw speed? The Matrox scored quite high on Windows screen redraws, but I do NOT want to run 3DS under Windoze… come to think of it, I'd rather not run *anything* under Windoze… Maybe I should buy the systems w/o a graphics card and get a #9 or Diamond Stealth card (if possible)? Thanx for any help. Jeff (a soon-to-be ex-Amiga user) Brown
#115229From: CyberdreamsJul 29, 1994 4:47 PM
I have the Micron p-90 with the stelth 32 pci and it works fine. BTW look into the Scsi drives, as you could use your old Amiga drives. sorry to see another Amiga user bite the dust. I gave mine to my son to work in Dpaint 4 . Now that Lightwave and Imagine have moved over I just can't see running Amiga any more. I found that it takes two IBM's to do the job of one Amiga becouse of dos's lack of multitasking env. But the speed is awesome. Brandon
#115288From: jeff brownJul 30, 1994 12:15 PM
Will keep my Amiga's around… especially the one w/ the Sunrize audio board in it., but I probably will move my 1GIG drive to the file server (plan to get one with PCI SCSI). Thanks for the vote of confidence on the Micron w/ Stealth board. –Jeff
#115661From: John TissavaryAug 2, 1994 4:49 AM
The Matrox MGA is very fast in 3DS with the latest Vibrant in-line drivers. The MGA has no DOS acceleration, however, and games and other pure DOS, VESA, and VGA stuff will be painfully slow. I love my MGA, though, and haven't found a card that can touch it for what I need. John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#115802From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Aug 2, 1994 3:34 PM
John, Do you have any idea how the MGA compares to a Viper using the Vibrant Drivers?? Just curious as I am STILL working toward that Micron P90!! — James — MAP —
#115900From: John TissavaryAug 3, 1994 3:45 AM
Actually, I've never used a Viper with the vibrant drivers because I got sick of diamond before I started using Vibrant's ProRes 3D (long time ago <g>). Their hardware was too erratic for my taste, so I switched to Hercules, then Matrox. The MGA works great with the in-line drivers, and except for very lousy dos performance (games, etc…), it's incredible, and I believe still the fastest 24bit card out there. John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#116021From: James Coulter[Mindscape]Aug 3, 1994 11:05 AM
Thanks. I will keep that in mind when I finally place the order. — James — MAP —
#116071From: MARTIN G FOSTERAug 3, 1994 2:10 PM
John, >> and I believe still the fastest 24bit card out there. << from the reports that I've read, the fastest now seems to be the Diamond Stealth 64, for 24-bit operations, by quite a wide margin. You can only be the fastest for a few months in this biz, but Matrox managed quite a long time as the fastest.
#116186From: John TissavaryAug 4, 1994 12:04 AM
Hmmm… maybe Diamond is worth checking into further… John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#116287From: M. G. BATCHELORAug 4, 1994 12:26 PM
Even though I'm using a Viper VLB (original rev.), I'd really stay away from Diamond if possible. I've been reading that the ATI Turbo Pro is even faster and perhaps better supported. Know anything about that product ? BILL
#116354From: John TissavaryAug 4, 1994 4:13 PM
Last time I tried an ATI the drivers were TOTALLY worthless, and all subsequent fixes broke something else. The ATI forum seems to indicate nothing has changed in this department. For me Matrox is the most reliable I've found. John Tissavary (LUNA cie)
#116384From: Gus GrubbaAug 4, 1994 6:31 PM
>> …stay away from Diamond if possible. I've been reading that the ATI >> Turbo Pro is even faster and perhaps better supported… I went that route. I dumped the Viper and got the ATI Mach64 thing. It's pretty cool, fast and does 24 bits in 1224×1024 what I was looking for. The problem is that the Vibrant driver has some major problems with it. PC-NFS, the stuff I use for networking, doesn't like it either. Support is indeed great though. I called and someone answered immediately, I told my problem, they hadn't heard about it and took notes. A couple of days later they called me saying they had found the problem and they were working on it with Sun. They said they would call me as soon as they had a fix. I never got beyond the answering machine over Diamond.
#116573From: M. G. BATCHELORAug 5, 1994 1:25 PM
<< I never got beyond the answering machine over Diamond. >> I know what you mean. Yes, everything I'd read & heard indicated the ATI board was the hottest & pretty well supported. I sure as he** wouldn't take much to beat Diamond's TS ! Is the ATI supposed to work well in a non-networked 3DS environment ? BILL