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#scripting

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#88316From: Adam DiGleriaAug 19, 1994 11:19 AM
Dear Guys at Impulse, I'm trying to decide which 3d software system to purchase for the PC, and I have a few questions. 1. Are there any plans to allow scripting hooks for animation? I.e., being able to write a script in text format to essentially program the Stage/Action/Project editors. A similar question would be: are there plans to put in hooks so people can write more detailed modules not already covered in the program such as physics, etc.? 2. Will the next version of Imagine have a more friendly interface for the PC? The current version I've seen is somewhat hostile to PC users. 3. Will there be an Imagine Companion for 3.0, and will it cover the various options for getting an Imagine animation to tape? 4. Not a question… a comment! I have a friend who owns Imagine 3.0, and after playing with it, I am very impressed with all the capabilities of you product. I'm close to plunking down my dollars for one of these programs, but I really would like to know if Impulse is going to make the PC version suffer to remain compatable with Amiga version. In other words… sell me, give me your best pitch. I'm already familiar with Imagine's capabilities, but where is the company going? I'm not making platform judgements here, but in my own (enlightened?) self interest, I need to know this company is committed to the PC product. And lets face it, one of the important attributes of the current successful 3d products (Lightwave, Autodesk) is an open architecture, to allow for customization. I look forward to a reply (if anyone over there has the time!). Thanks, AD
#88340From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 19, 1994 5:22 PM
Adam, I dont think the Imagine interface is hostile, it is just different. ITs not windows and its not clunky dos. It is this way for one reason, 10s of thousands of AMiga users may someday want to buy a PC and then they will want not to learn again things that they already know how to use. So we opted to make it easy for them. If you have ever used 3DS you would find it in many ways just like IMagine except thousands of $$ less. There are other programs that have spent all of the time they have on interface, and then when it gets to the down and dirty of doing the job, they fall apart. The Imagine interface is the way it is until Windows 4.0 with 32 bit addressing is reay for all to use. Then we have something different in store. When are true feature by feature comparisson is made among all of the 3D products, you will find Imagine at the top and in most cases leading the pack. The main difference is this, we have free teck support, we dont charge an arm and a leg for upgrades and (big sales pitch) we are nice people. We also listen to what people want and we do our best to make sure those features are in the code so they can do what they want to do. We would love to have your business and hope that you can soon become an Imagine user. In any event, have fun and make some great pics for all of us to enjoy. Mike
#88345From: John StetzerAug 19, 1994 5:54 PM
>>If you have ever used 3DS you would find it in many ways just like IMagine except thousands of $$ less You mean Imagine cost thousands of dollars_more_than 3ds!!!!???? Sorry, couldn't resist ;^). John Stetzer JWS
#88383From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 20, 1994 10:57 AM
John Yes for you thousands more, but we will also send a new car to drive it around in with a pentium to go along. :.>' mike
#88385From: Jim ShieldsAug 20, 1994 12:15 PM
As for scripting, I talked to John Greiggs the other day and his Imagine Staging Language (ISL) for 3.0 should be ready soon. It allows you to write scripts that are then compiled into Imagine staging files. I've used it for doing particle simulations and animations with large numbers of objects, and it's great. Jim Shields Regal Rodent Development
#88511From: Adam DiGleriaAug 22, 1994 1:50 PM
Great! I would love to hear details about this scripting language. Off the bat it sounds like one of the things I'm looking for in Imagine. AD
#88486From: John StetzerAug 22, 1994 11:04 AM
>>Yes for you thousands more, but we will also send a new car to drive it around in with a pentium to go along. :^). (but no Yugos) John Stetzer JWS
#88508From: Adam DiGleriaAug 22, 1994 1:05 PM
Thank you for a nice reply. It was a bit generic though… I fully realize that price/feature-wise, you guys are ahead of the pack. I disagree with your description of the interface (I do find it less than adequate, but perhaps hostile was a bit strong), but I can appreciate that you are trying to please two camps. I guess my problem is that I'm not a member of the other camp! Although, I did own an A1000 years ago… Anyway, what does the future hold? Are hooks into the system planned? I'm a developer to, so believe me I take these things with a grain of salt, but if you could hint as to what is coming up that would be great. In closing, I hope I have been clear that I am only looking to find out what would be best for me to purchase. I have no axe to grind with Impulse, It's just that you are front runner in my search, so you get the attention. I wish you success, thanks, AD
#88524From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 22, 1994 5:06 PM
Adam No offense in your comment, but hostile indicates that the software does not somehow run properly. Interface design is an art in and of itself, we have spent less time with the overall pretty stuff and more on the meat of the matter. We render faster, better and with more options than others, of course this comment would be up for grabs as you talk with others. As for hooks into the system we are doing that now, things like IPAS routines might work in the future….Also we welcome third party input. Have fun in your journey, it will be a tough one. MIke
#88583From: Adam DiGleriaAug 23, 1994 10:44 AM
Thanks Mike, I think hostile was a bit strong (didn't I already retract that word? <g>) And I think it's great you take the time to share stuff with someone who is not even an owner of your product. Between you and the Lightwave guys, I am quivering with indecision, though frankly your price advantage is significant when coupled with the fact the Lightwave PC isn't out yet. Preparing to slog road, AD
#88638From: Jim ShieldsAug 24, 1994 8:42 AM
I've been doing this 3D thing for several years now, and went through the classic "Lightwave or Imagine" quandry a few years ago. Both programs are good for a lot of things, but I think I made the right decision in putting most of my resources into Imagine. IMHO, you just get better value and service from Impulse. I hear people bitch about Impulse's tech support line, but I've found it to be quick and definitive (and free, that's a big consideration). They seem to be able to answer my questions pretty much right away; sometimes it's not the answer I would have wanted to hear, but hey, life's like that. Stick with Imagine.
#88655From: Adam DiGleriaAug 24, 1994 11:28 AM
Jim, I certainly would not have a problem with their tech support (I do that myself), and I'm glad to hear they're responsive. After reading about some of the future plans Mike mentioned, I've got a tough choice ahead. Thanks for the testamonial. BTW, anyone seen the promotional video from Alladin? I can't understand why they put together what is basically a Toaster (give or take) for the PC, and then sell it for more than twice as much?! AD
#88694From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Aug 24, 1994 7:15 PM
We also have some other factors that Newtek does not. Faster rendering…. very important. Low cost upgrades on a regular basis Free tech support that you can acutally use here and by phone no need to have, Windows NT lots of memory and Well enough bashing, if that is what this is, we would like your business so why dont you place your order to day so that we can get you Imagine and you can start doing some great stuff. IN any event, thanks for all of your intrest.