#Alpha Negitives?
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Jerry:
I trust your input here above many others, but once again… Today i
ventured downtown to Siggraph, and talked to a DEC rep. Again he said that
under Windows NT any software that is compatable with WindowsNT will work.
"Unless it's does really funky stuff with the code."
Again, as I said I trust your opinion, but where does your Info come from?
Do you own or opperate an Alpha system? That is really what I am looking for
here, first hand info. I am looking at the TeraClips if you or nyone have any
experiance with it I would love to hear about it.
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication
Brad:
The heart of a computer is the CPU. Each CPU has a specific instruction set
requiring specific coding. Thus, something written specifically for an Intel
Pentium will not operate on a IBM/Motorola PowerPC chip.
There is a limited degree of portability in some higher level languages like
C. You can, for instance, write code in C that will ultimately perform the same
operations on a 486, 680×0, PowerPC or Alpha. You can run your C code through a
compiler that will translate it from one platform to another.
But here's the catch: many of the system level calls for each platform still
have to be hand coded for the specific platform.
UNIX, I think, was the first attempt to create a universal operating system
that would allow transparent portability from one platform to another.
Nice idea. But it didn't work.
There were soon so many different flavors of UNIX that portability was lost
in most cases.
Windows NT is the latest attempt to create a true platform independent
operating system. Microsoft has done a damned good job in getting the various
players to cooperate together. Right now, Windows NT is implemented on the
Intel x86 and Pentium CPU's, the PowerPC and the Alpha. (By way of example,
look at how much trouble IBM is having in porting its very own OS/2 to the
PowerPC.)
In theory, high level C code could be written and it could run on any of
these processors.
But the reality is that so many programmers take their own direction and have
their own ideas about what's right, that you still run into major problems.
You're much better off buying application software that has been specifically
optimized for the particular CPU and Operating System you're using.
The most recent example I can think of in swapping high level core code from
one platform to another is Microsoft Word 6.0. On Windows machines, it's an
adequate performer. Yet when they translated the code to the Macintosh 680×0,
it was a disaster. It worked (in the sense that any Microsoft product works),
but it was slower than ice in January because the code was simply not optimized
for the Macintosh OS and 680×0 CPU.
Personally I'm not even looking at the Alpha. It's a very fine CPU and will
probably be around for a long time with lots of applications to choose from for
mainstream business processing tasks.
But I kind of doubt it will build the momentum and marketbase necessary to be
a long time option for niches like animation and 3D rendering.
Personally I'd stick with the Pentium for no other reason than it's
widespread use.
Jerry
Jerry:
Thanks very much for taking the time to explain this to me. It really is a
coin flip at this point for me. After being an Amigan for so long I am just
tired of having to find specialty shops and dealers for software / hardware.
The pentium is certainly not a slow machine, and the accesability of it is a
huge draw (and really all that is in my budget). but the draw of the super
speedster is very strong. If Stans rumor about the MS buyout of DEC proves
corect then it may become a differant game, but for now I think the safe road
is the one to take.
Thanks again
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication
"If Stans rumor about the MS buyout of DEC proves corect"
If there were any truth to it, it would have been on the wires days ago. Two
large publicly held companies don't merger in secret. It would also be insane
for Microsoft to merge with a hardware manufacturer, unless it were Intel.
If you're tired of haunting specialty shops and dealers, then you definitely
don't want an Alpha.
Jerry
I think I found the source of the rumor (or just more rumoring):
While at the LightWave siminars today I brought up this subject whit an old
aquantnce who told me that MS had given DEC about $12 millon for design
research.
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication
Hi Brad –
We're in the process of adding Alpha systems to our stable. After the sucess of
Windows NT at NAB, and the price/performance ratio of Alpha systems, like the
Teraclipse you mentioned, we feel it will be a serious entry in the LightWave
workstation market. And, as you may have noticed, Teraclipse is not the only
Alpha machine out there. I know four others already, all maxing the machine for
rendering speed. Desk Station Technologies latest offering, the Raptor with the
300Mhz Alpha, claims rendering times 60 times faster than a stock Amiga 4000! I
can't see the market ignoring the performance edge of the Alpha.
Hank
Videology, Inc Where you always get P.O.M.P. and
Service under all circumstances
I called NewTek today and ordered my Intel Version of LightWave. After weeks of
self debate, the deciding factor was when Brad Pebbler took a few of us to
breakfast this morning for the Multi-Platform LW Class, and was running LW on
his P75 Lap Top. We held most of the class right there in the Universal Hiltons
main resturant. Now that was productivity!
P.S. after tlaking to Brad today, it sounds like every body here shuold be
impressed with the Flyer 4.05 upgrade He told me about som of the new feature
(WOW!). The main reason this is taking so long, if you dont already know, is
because 4.05 is compleatly re-writen from the ground up. There is none of the
origanl code left, hence the longer rewrite….
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication
Hi Brad –
Do keep us in mind if you need anything more. We are PartnersPlus dealers and
carry a full line of Amiga's, addons and software.
The first edition of our catalogue will be out next week.
Hank
Videology, Inc Where you always get P.O.M.P. and
Service under all circumstances
Hi,
Can ya send us a few?
TP@VTU
Consider it done.
PS. Hi Tom
Hank
Videology, Inc Where you always get P.O.M.P. and
Service under all circumstances
Hi,
RE:"and was running LW on his P75 Lap Top. We held most of the class right
there in the Universal Hiltons main resturant. Now that was productivity!"
I saw that too…way cool-I want one-bad!!! BTW it was great to meet ya, let's
talk soon.
TP@VTU 🙂
Tom:
I just walked in the door from my trip I'll be C-mailing you tomarrow or
sooner as soon as I'm done. 8)
P.S. The Wine Train takes a 3-4 week advanced reservation. Damm, now another
excuse to go back!
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication