#OS 3.1 Worth it?
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Specifically, how do I benifit? My 2000 cant do any more colors, so what other
improvements are there…. I wanna be sold…..
Key 3.1 advantages over 1.x and in some cases 2.x:
CD-ROM support including CDXL CrossDOS built in Quicker on ECS graphics
refreshes More bulletproof than earlier OS revisions Multiview/AmigaGuide
support Datatypes support (GIF, JPEG, PCX, WAV, etc.) AppIcon support Pen
sharing Improved handling in ASL, shell, etc.
And you're wrong that your Amiga 2000 "can't do any more colors." With 3.1 and
the Picasso board, you can have a high-color Workbench simulating AGA or
better. Try 1600×1200 Workbench displays in 256 colors!
More important, late-revision Amiga software now needs at least WB 2.x to run
properly and in some cases 3.x. I'm running AVI videos of "Babylon 5" on my
3.1-equipped A2000 using XANIM6, which pretty much demands WB 3.x, for
instance.
— from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, via Amiga AUTOPILOT v1.80
[the only way to fly cyberspace]
on xanim 6…how do you get it to open a window on workbench…i WanT your
COMMAND LINE….cause i barely get it to work….I have a 1200…
Lepido,
in answer to your question:
>on xanim 6…how do you get it to open a window on workbench…i WanT your
>COMMAND LINE….cause i barely get it to work….I have a 1200…
You must use following variable. Type in the Shell:
setenv X11/usepub Workbench
But you will see the disadvantage that the WB colors changes. Very ugly.
Juan
** Nous laisserons ce monde-ci aussi sot et aussi mechant
que nous l'avons trouve en y arrivant ** VOLTAIRE
To correct my former message:
Now, Xanim8 is out … and this version avoid the color crash :-).
Juan
** Nous laisserons ce monde-ci aussi sot et aussi mechant
que nous l'avons trouve en y arrivant ** VOLTAIRE
XANIM doesn't open a window on the Workbench; it opens a separate screen. I
suppose you could use another utility to try and force a window. I had to play
with the switches to get playback on my ECS machine; haven't tried to run it on
the A1200.
— from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, via Amiga AUTOPILOT v1.80
[the only way to fly cyberspace]
To force Xanim into a worikbench screen type the following:
setenv xanim X11/usepub Workbench :
Do this prior to running xanim.
(This is for xanim8 – xanim 6 I couldn't say)
Hope this helps.
PKB
If I put 3.1 and a Picasso board in my A3000T, could I then run AGA only
software? Like games that say enhanced for 1200 aga?
Steve Thompson —> AutoPilot 1.80
one can enver run disk based aga games because they always look at for the
lisa chip and write to copper tables etc…
Steve,
<If I put 3.1 and a Picasso board in my A3000T, could I then run AGA only
software? Like games that say enhanced for 1200 aga?>
No, unfortunately. Most games (AGA) write to the chipset as do some
graphics programs written for AGA (DPaint AGA and Brilliance). But you will be
able to run your workbench in 256 colors, and use other more system friendly
programs (Final Writer, Prowrite, ImageFX, DirOpus, AutoPilot, Terminus, etc.)
in those modes. I've got a Picasso in my A2000/040 so if you have any other
questions I'll try to answer them.
Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot
Asha
also personal paint 6.1 /6.3 supports the ppiccasso in aga modes
Lepido,
<also personal paint 6.1 /6.3 supports the ppiccasso in aga modes>
Thanks… I've heard some good things about Personal Paint. I may add it to
my paint program collection.
Skimming through the Redwoods on AutoPilot
Asha
I don't *have* a Picasso but my guess is games are the one area that generally
won't work with such a board as they often address the Amiga hardware directly.
However, Picasso will run numerous AGA-compliant programs like ProPage,
Pagestream, etc. in 256 color screen modes even on ECS machines.
— from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, via Amiga AUTOPILOT v1.80
[the only way to fly cyberspace]
>>Key 3.1 advantages over 1.x and in some cases 2.x:
CD-ROM support including CDXL CrossDOS built in Quicker on ECS graphics
refreshes More bulletproof than earlier OS revisions Multiview/AmigaGuide
support Datatypes support (GIF, JPEG, PCX, WAV, etc.) AppIcon support Pen
sharing Improved handling in ASL, shell, etc.<<
Cool… got 2.1OS now .Still pondering….
Ron:
I was very glad to hear that someone got Xanim to work. I currently have
Amigados v 2.04x and I set switches for about four hours without ever getting
anything useful out of Xanim.I am awaiting system 3.1 (tomorrow, I think) and
I'm looking forward to playing some quicktime movies. Have you had any trouble
playing movies? What kind of system are you using? (I fear my 25 Mhz '030
won't be fast enough.
–would be cruising on Autopilot if I could persuade it to download the $#@%$#
messages! Instead using CIM.
Paul,
I have a 25 MHz '030 accelerator on my A2000 with ECS and it played the
animations with sound reasonably well…a bit haltingly, but that's even true
on many Macs and PCs.
— from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, via Amiga AUTOPILOT v1.80
[the only way to fly cyberspace]
That's really interesting, since I also have a 25 Mhz 030 in my A2000 and in
Xanim, the fastest mode I have been able to do is to open a 256 color workbench
on an EGS screen and play the anim there. But it's still ridiculously slow
until the soundtrack cycles through, and then it displays the anim reasonably
well. But there is a lot about Xanim that I haven't been able to find out.
The docs say it has a truecolor mode, and I think that would be faster, but I
haven't been able to make Xanim enter a truecolor mode, even thgough I give it
a 24-bit screen. I would give a whole bunch for a utility that would take
quicktime (mostly MPeg I think) and convert it to an amiga anim. My machine
has no problem playing those at reasonable speeds. Oh well . . .
get the daggeX and XV3 from the Aminet…I think It does what you want to
do…so does Image Fx 2.1 I think
Thanks for the tip. I'll look for those files. Of course, this means now I
have to try and make Amosaic work :-Z (that is biting lower lip).
Don't do it!!!!! don't try and use AMOSAIC!!! 😉
I upgraded to 1.4 beta (also called 2.0 beta), and lost ftp access in the
process. Also it says in the docs you can set the variable NNTPSERVER to a news
server and download news. I can't get it to work though….
It's a pity we haven't got netscape 🙁
Phill
Actually, I'm thinking of bypassing the acid indigestion portion of Internet
access and just buying one of the commercial all-in-one products for the Mac.
Emplant's got to be good for something!
PKB
*sniff* I don't have emplant so I am stuck with amosaic 🙁
Phill
There, there. I went through enough grief trying to get Emplant to work (it
still crashes every time I try to print to my Laswerwriter). I don't think I
have the strength to go through it again with Amosaic.
(g)
PKB
too bad netscape sucks!!!! i have the windows version and it's very dumb….i
prfer using os2 warps web browser and spry's mosaic for cserve on my
pc…Netscape ain't good at all
I thought I'd do the prudent thing and browse the Mac forums to find a Web
browser that is relatively trouble free.
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PKB