CompuServe Thread

Controller confusion

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#118261From: John GagerAug 29, 1990 10:23 PM
I've been wanting to upgrade to an auto-booting HD controller and put my trusty old 2090 in retirement. But lately there has been a rash of new and/or improved controllers to hit the market. The 2091, ICD's, GVP's Series II, etc. If anyone has any experience with the latest controllers, I would be interested in getting your comments. I'm using a Quantum 105s, so if you are using a Quantum drive, I would especially be interested in getting Diskperf results along with information on ease of setup, other features, etc. Thanks! John Gager
#118351From: ICD, Inc.Aug 30, 1990 6:29 PM
I think the ICD one is the best, personally. Drop me your address in email or call and 815-968-2228 voice or 815-968-2229 BBS or 815-968-6888 FAX and I will send you some literature, including some DiskSpeed 3.1 test results. Craig
#118390From: John GagerAug 30, 1990 11:18 PM
You have already sent me some literature Craig, but I still haven't been able to make up my mind. It is understandable that you feel that the ICD controller is the best, but I want to get some points of views from the rest of the users also. There have been a few times that I have purchased some hardware, and then ended up wishing that I had bought something else instead. You need to shop around and get the best value just as if you were buying a new computer. That's why I bought the Amiga in the first place 8^) John
#118405From: ICD, Inc.Aug 31, 1990 6:46 AM
Oh, sure, take your time. You don't want to rush into anything. Get all the info and compare them all. Then you will by the ICD anyway. 😉 That should be "buy", not "by".
#118443From: Supra CorpAug 31, 1990 12:52 PM
Craig, You seem awfully confident of yourself….. john supra
#118488From: ICD, Inc.Aug 31, 1990 8:59 PM
Yup.
#118584From: John H. GrahamSep 1, 1990 12:45 PM
Can an ICD mount any device. like a Omti or Adaptec scsi to St506 controler. Most controlers get all the mounting info from the harddrive. And will not mount from the devs mountlist. I got a large st506 harddrive and don't want to give it up.
#118636From: ICD, Inc.Sep 1, 1990 10:06 PM
All the mounting info will be stored to the drive if it is connected to a separate controller (Omti or Adaptec), too. Both of those are supported by our host adapter. You just select the controller from the list of devices found, then the drive from a list we supply (you can add yours to the list if it isn't already there). You still won't have to mess with the mountlist. After formatting the drive with separate controller will work just as embedded SCSI drives do. Craig
#118637From: ICD, Inc.Sep 1, 1990 10:08 PM
And things will probably be less confusing by defining Controller as the device that allows an ST506/412 type drive to be connected to a SCSI bus, and a Host Adapter a device that allows the Amiga to act as a host on a SCSI bus. The ICD AdSCSI 2000 is a host adapter. The Omti and Adaptec boards are controllers. Craig
#118747From: John H. GrahamSep 2, 1990 4:57 PM
I know, but not all scsi host adpaters talk the same. At work no body can get an omti an amiga 2090 or gvp to work. But an adptec will. Now is scsi scsi or are some host 1/2 scsi. John.
#118839From: Don Curtis/SYSOPSep 3, 1990 1:09 AM
John, The SCSI "standard" has lots of things that are optional. Some manufacturers implement them, others don't. Don
#118937From: John H. GrahamSep 3, 1990 6:50 PM
I wish manufacturers would say what they support and what they don't. It would save a lot of wasted time an money. John.
#118868From: ICD, Inc.Sep 3, 1990 10:23 AM
The Omti is a lot more "standard" than the Adaptec. The Adaptec takes special treatment. Craig
#118938From: John H. GrahamSep 3, 1990 6:53 PM
Like what? The ATN pin 32 is not supported by the Omti. John.
#118428From: Art SteinmetzAug 31, 1990 10:05 AM
GVP is running an upgrade promotion now. Your old C= controller + $90 = New GVP SCSI controller. Call 'em up. — Art
#118523From: John GagerSep 1, 1990 12:06 AM
Yeah, I saw their upgrade offer. Its tempting but I would like to see some performance figures and comparisons of their Series II controllers. I don't mind spending a few extra bucks to get what I want. — John
#118585From: John H. GrahamSep 1, 1990 12:49 PM
I just got my GVP II controler. It will do 700K bytes with DMA and CPU contenion on. Note this is a real DMA controler this time.
#118663From: John GagerSep 2, 1990 12:43 AM
Hmmm….funny they don't mention that its a DMA controller in any of their ads. I know its asking alot, but if you have enough room on one of your partitions, would you run Diskspeed on that partition with DMA and CPU contention off, save the results to disk, and post them here. Hopefully, I will be able to return the favor 8^) John Gager
#118748From: John H. GrahamSep 2, 1990 5:01 PM
As soon as I get this anim up an runing i will. Frame 20 and 200 to go. John.
#118795From: John GagerSep 2, 1990 9:43 PM
Thanks John, I appreciate your help. You might let me know what kind of hard drive you are using. — John
#118935From: John H. GrahamSep 3, 1990 6:45 PM
I am useing two St506s, a Tandon 262 and a Okidata 526, and one Syquest 555. The adaptec 4000 that controled the Okidata died. So now im down to two drives. John.
#118945From: John GagerSep 3, 1990 8:12 PM
Hmmm….If you are getting 700KB/sec reads on the ST-506s and the Syquest then that's pretty respectable. I'm not too sure about the Tandon because I'm not familiar with it. By the way, I noticed in your last message that you are doing animations, so I have a feeling that you are running an accelerator card. If so, is there any way for you to switch the Amiga back to the stock 68000 before you run diskspeed? .. John
#119037From: John H. GrahamSep 4, 1990 5:23 PM
No no! I get that speed from the Syquest not the st506. Im runing the st506 on a A2090. No way am i going to get that speed from a A2090 and a st506. What i need is a good scsi to st506 adaptor. So i can put this A2090 in cold storage. Turn off my 030 🙁 . Well it's about 400k in the slow mode. John.
#119024From: Art SteinmetzSep 4, 1990 10:02 AM
GVP is coming to our user group meeting tonight. I'll let you know if I hear anything useful. — Art