#New User/IBM Download
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Greetings – I am a long time IBM user & now have access to an Amiga model
XXXX. It came to my store as a paint color selector display device. I'd
like to learn how to use this machine so that I could do simple word
processing. Also would like to see if there are any word processing &
inventory programs in public domain. (Can't get store owners to spring for
any automation, which is why I hope to use the Amiga.
I am using an IBM clone with Compuserve & would download from this forum to
the clone. Any problems with taking the IBM disk to the Amiga & using
as-is? Looking for any advice – THANKS !!
Mark Lubbock
Mark,
The Amiga won't read MS-DOS disks "as is". There are freely
distributable programs that will allow it to read an MS-DOS disk. But
that's like a chicken and egg situtation…you need that program to be able
to read MS-DOS disks…but you can only download it onto an MS-DOS disk.
There is also a commercial program to do the same thing, but as you
said…your boss doesn't want to pay for any software.
Don
Mark:
The first thing you need is a commercial program to convert MSDOS 3.5"
disks to AmigaDOS format. Then you can dl to your clone, and, provided you
can put the file on a 3.5" 720K formatted disk, you can read the dl'd
software into your Amiga!
OK — so your bosses won't pay bucks for Amiga software. OTOH — Amiga
software is very much cheaper than MSDOS or MAC software.
For example, Dos-2
-Dos or CrossDOS (two programs which permit the Amiga to
read, write and FORMAT MSDOS 720K 3.5" disks) retail for about $25-$35,
depending on whether you go dealer or mail order.
Once you have that, you can DL from here, and send it to the Amiga.
Also, you need to find out if your machine has a full set of Amiga OS
files. If not, you can get them from virtually any Amiga dealer for about
$25 (for the so-called AmigaDOS 1.3 Enhancer kit, which gives you Workbench
1.3, and Extras 1.3.
So, for a total of $50-$60 (and that's assuming you don't have the full
AmigaDOS software) your machine is fully functional! If you have the
AmigaDOS files, then your cost is half that.
Once you have that, you can dl to your heart's content to get PD and
shareware files here. In addition, you do get two _text_ editors with the
basic AmigaDOS enhancer kit — ed and MEMACS (micro Emacs). Be advised,
however, that they are not word processors, they are text editors, though
you can use them to do a lot of basic word work, and they are really for
creating batch files, programming etc (though both are MUCH better and
easier to use then EDLIN). Availabe here is a more powerful shareware
product in demo form called UEDIT. It is also a test editor, but has a lot
of features, and the demo version is very useful by itself.
Again, Amiga commercial software is much cheaper than MSDOS or MAC
software, so you could get Scribble, for example, for around $25, or PenPal
for $70, or ProWrite for $75, or Page Setter (almost DTP) for $90, or
WordPerfect 4.x for $160, or even full desk top publishing (with high
resolution output on a
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DOT MATRIX printer) in Professional Page for all of about $190!
Again, there ARE PD and shareware data base programs available here, or on
PeopleLink, or on Bix. But, the commercial variety are very reasonably
priced. For example, in the MSDOS world, SuperBase is getting a nice rep.
It started on the Amiga, and only costs $90 for the low end version, and
$200 for the professional version mail order. With that you can do
virtually any data base oriented task, tho commerical data base programs
for the Amiga START at about $30 mail order.
All that said, if you like computers, you'll love the Amiga. It has
incredible graphics and sound capabilities (which is why it has a rep for
great game machine, which it is). It also has a VERY flexible OS, and can
truly multitask, and has both a graphics user interface (like the MAC) AND
a command line interface (like the MSDOS world). And it permits
simultaneously running software, from different suppliers and developers,
to communicate with an control each other. You will love it if you get
into it.
Imagine — a potential 8 megs of ram available to the system,
autoconfiguring (that means you just plug & play) with NO hassles! Imagine
— ONE printer driver for your printer for the WHOLE system!(_every_ piece
of software uses the SAME printer driver). Imagine — one, two, four,
eight, whatever serial ports working simultaneously with simple software
configurations (no COM1, COM2, COMx stuff here). Imagine — ONE basic
graphics file standard that permits you to share graphics among a wide
range of paint, display and graphics editing software. Imagine — ONE
basic sound file format that works the same way! etc., etc., etc.
So, if you like computers, you have the hardware. Risk $50 or so to learn
about this one. You might surprise the stink out of your employers. (BTW
-for a big $200-$300 they could buy you Deluxe Paint III and AmigaVision,
which would let you create ON SITE point of sale computer demos to sell
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