CompuServe Thread

Software

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#18443From: jeff brownAug 24, 1990 3:07 PM
One for the wish list: (Software) Would anyone be interested in developing the following? Given, that there is now Arexx, MicroIllusions' Transport Controller, The Art Dept (with Arexx to be added, we hope), and a few popular frame controllers for the Amiga (from BCD and VideoMedia); and, that there will sooner or later be frame buffers from Impulse, and eventually Digital Creations (not to mention the exisiting Mimetics board): what is needed *is*, something like this: A program to automate frame grabs from time-coded videotape. A specific application I can think of right away is to take a segment of video, and, frame by frame, 1)grab a frame (in 24-bit) 2)use TAD to reduce to b/w 'outline' art 3)save the frame to disk or, (working from a video dub) replace the frame we just grabbed with the 'affected/colorized/altered' version, back to tape. 4)repeat for as much disk space or tape you wish to use. I can see other uses, such as automated grabs saved as 24-bit IFF files, to add a few seconds of brush-wrapped video to an "Imagine" animated object. I would find this worth paying for, although I probably couldn't afford to underwrite all the development costs.
#18564From: ASDGSep 3, 1990 10:24 PM
This sort of thing will be possible in ADPro (Art Department Professional).
#18572From: Harry CallesisSep 4, 1990 7:03 PM
Are registered owners of TAD going to get a notification of availability and upgrade cost for ADPro when it's ready? What are some of the features ADPro will have that TAD doesn't? Thanks … Harry
#18575From: ASDGSep 4, 1990 10:18 PM
All registered TAD owners will be notified by post card about ADPro. The principal differences between the two products are: (1) ADPro can save in any format it can read. (2) ADPro is fully ARexx driven. (3) ADPro can render up to 256 colors. (4) ADPro has an enhanced palette mode which greatly increases image quality when creating images for NON-amiga display. (5) there are so many other things…it would take a while to type them in. pk
#18592From: Clint H. WoeltjenSep 5, 1990 2:03 PM
I just noticed this thread, when is the guestimated release date of ADPro? Clint <VRLI>
#18629From: ASDGSep 6, 1990 10:47 PM
My crystal ball says sometime in the next three months. This is firm since it was supposed to be released by September 15th. We just keep adding cool things. We'll get it out the door soon. pk
#18638From: Clint H. WoeltjenSep 6, 1990 11:38 PM
Perry: Thanks! I'm looking forward to it. Looks like yet another tool that I can't live without. <grin> Clint <VRLI>
#18593From: Bill EastburnSep 5, 1990 2:54 PM
While its in my mind…. How about including a DELETE gadget in the program. Bill, K3OZM
#18630From: ASDGSep 6, 1990 10:49 PM
The thought has crossed our minds. But the conventional wisdom says if you make it harder for people to delete a file, it is less likely for them to accidentally delete a needed file. For the foreseeable future, a delete file command is not likely. But we are keeping it on the list of maybes.
#18903From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSSep 21, 1990 4:58 PM
How about a delete command accessible only via Arexx? That way, those who want to can add it, and those that don't, won't. –Eet– I disagree with every word you say, but I'll defend to your death your right to say it! Director of Mayhem — Extra Terrestrial Imports, Ltd.
#18595From: Harry CallesisSep 5, 1990 7:22 PM
Perry – Thanks for the info. Now to go get a rag to clean the drool off my keyboard … 8^). I know it's probably too early, but any hints on what the upgrade cost might be? Harry
#18635From: ASDGSep 6, 1990 10:52 PM
The present Art Department continues to list for $89.95. Art Department Professional will list at $199.95. The upgrade from one to the other will cost $75.00. pk
#18620From: John PendergrassSep 6, 1990 8:10 PM
Does your 'render in upto 256 colors' mean HAM-E support? If not, via which board? (I assume you mean Amiga video, not other systems)… thanks –jp–
#18636From: ASDGSep 6, 1990 10:53 PM
HAM-E support is defintely in the cards. 🙂 pk
#18644From: Kelly JordanSep 7, 1990 6:20 AM
Perry, How is support for the Mimetics Framebuffer coming along for TAD? 73, Kelly
#18680From: ASDGSep 9, 1990 11:44 PM
We have a saver for it (display) but no loader yet. Will get back to it when time allows. pk
#18691From: David KieltykaSep 10, 1990 7:52 PM
Perry, I'm a little puzzled as to what you mean by "ADPro can render up to 256 colors". Could you perhaps be a little more explicit? Glad to hear about the ARexx support. Will ADPro take advantage of AmigaOS 2.0-specific features? Will it render directly in the new ECS modes? (I've got some 4-level greyscale scanned images that look great at 640×960.) My checkbook awaits your upgrade notice. 8^) -Dave
#18696From: ASDGSep 10, 1990 8:09 PM
ADPro can render in up to 256 “true'' colors. HAM has 4096 colors, true. But they are created using a special encoding (the hold and modify encoding). The Art Department can render up to 5 bit-planes (32 colors) without resorting to some trick like HAM or EHB. ADPro can render in up to 8 bit-planes (256 colors) without re- quiring you to be in a special Amiga only mode. A 256 colors i- mage cannot be directly displayed on an Amiga, of course. But they look fantastic on a MAC or PC. We will not be supporting any of the new ECS modes since they are for all intents and purposes, useless and un-Amiga like. pk
#18703From: Joe KuzmaSep 11, 1990 2:33 PM
Will the new ADPro support 8-bit plane (256 colors) display with the Black Belt HAM-E device? And, what is the release date of ADPro? (projected release date 🙂 )
#18710From: ASDGSep 11, 1990 10:52 PM
HAM-E is extremely high on our list of priorities for support of other company's display products. In fact, it is probably number 1 or at least tied for number 1. pk
#18708From: David KieltykaSep 11, 1990 9:16 PM
Perry, Ah…I follow ya. True 8-bit rendering will be great for creating GIF images…and for HAM-E's REG mode of course. 8^) I disagree with you to an extent about the ECS modes. True, they are severely limited, but one can still get useful results image-wise within those limitations. I've done a 4-level greyscale version of a Robert Johnson photo (also available in AmigaArts in a 16-level 640×400 version) that looks real good at 640×960. Of course I'll still be able to create such images whether ADPro supports the ECS modes or not, but it would be nice to get that immediate feedback while I'm processing such images. Oh well…. -Dave-
#18762From: David KieltykaSep 14, 1990 3:32 PM
Perry, Something else I forgot to ask you re ADPro: will it contain any edge detection and/or sharpness algorithms? I know a number of DigiView users who would be thrilled to have something like Digi-View's Sharpness control added to TAD's image-processing arsenal. -Dave-
#18776From: ASDGSep 15, 1990 11:24 AM
I variable sharpness/blur function is planned. But hasn't been implemented yet. We hope to have it in the first release.
#18800From: Joe KuzmaSep 16, 1990 8:20 PM
Dave, (& Perry) YES YES YES! A Digi-View SHARPNESS control would be WONDERFUL in upcomming TAD or ADPRO!!! Joe