CompuServe Thread

Faster 8088 BBoard

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#500From: Mark SterlingSep 12, 1990 9:17 AM
Steven, I have the 8088 BridgeBoard and am in need of more speed (who isn't). I noticed that you were trying to compile a list of Bridgeboard compatible products. I have seen various messages mentioning the Sota 386si which is OK unless you need Amouse or Atime. An Orchid 286 board is mentioned but I don't know which one or how completely compatible it is. The Tallgrass 286 board is also mentioned. It is out of production but a few are still around. Sota also makes a 286 board but even Sota did not know if it was more or less compatible than their 386si board. Any guidance would be appreciated. A 10-12 mHz 286 board should supply the performance boost I need. Thanks in advance. ….Mark Sterling
#770From: Katherine CochraneSep 15, 1990 12:32 AM
Mark, One accellerator card that will NOT work is Intel's Inboard 386/PC. I have had to go out and buy a (yech!) PC clone since I have to have min. 1MB RAM for my business database applications, and the info I've seen says that while the SOTA 386i goes fast with the 8088BB, you can't use the extra memory. Good luck! Kathy
#1014From: Mark SterlingSep 17, 1990 9:29 PM
Katherine, Yep, I have heard the Inboard does not work. It is expensive too! I think you can still use a regular memory board with the Sota 386i instaed of the daughterboard. ….Mark
#1107From: Ben A LottSep 18, 1990 5:32 PM
Yes you can use regular memory if you have a SOTA 386si installed. I've just installed an AST Rampage PC into mine with one meg and it works fine. BEN Leigh's Computer's
#1142From: RON TROYSep 19, 1990 12:01 AM
Hey Ben, anything new on the 16i front? Ron
#1232From: Ben A LottSep 20, 1990 7:26 AM
Hey Ron, yes, it's gone back, no joy in mudville buddy, instead i picked up a RAMPAGE and Floppy I/O plus. BEN Leigh's Computer's
#1238From: RON TROYSep 20, 1990 8:52 AM
Oh well. Nice try. Maybe someday they'll figure out what the problem was and you'll try again. Ron
#1334From: Katherine CochraneSep 21, 1990 1:41 PM
But what about memory mapping? The XT has that 640K ceiling, remember? That's what I was interested in getting around. The Inboard is supposed to do that. The whole point is moot to me now — my new (used) XT should arrive today, which I will plug the Inboard into, and I'll just use the BB for minor stuff. It's too bad — the solution of 3 machines in one is so elegant! Kathy
#1335From: Katherine CochraneSep 21, 1990 1:46 PM
Mark, An addendum, after reading other msgs in this thread — I already had an add-on memory board for 640K — just a bottom-of-the-line, $22 board with 128K on it. Worked great. But, I need at least 1MB, which the ots XT won't look at. Kathy
#1359From: Don Curtis/SYSOPSep 21, 1990 9:43 PM
Kathy, Why not? I've got an XT BB and it's got 1 Meg of RAM attached and working just fine with it (and I can add more if I wish). Of course, anything above 640k has to be EMS memory…just like any other MS-DOS machine (XT or otherwise). Don
#1908From: Katherine CochraneSep 27, 1990 10:18 PM
Don, Well, darn!! I thought I read on here that none of the accelerator boards could help the XT-BB read above 640K! Too bad, since I've already committed to buy another machine. I'll need it eventually, anyway. Just what is the story on making XT read EMS RAM? Special s/w? What about the famous 640K "ceiling" in MS-DOS? Kathy
#1931From: Don Curtis/SYSOPSep 27, 1990 11:08 PM
Katherine, To make an XT BB read EMS RAM, you simply install it…at least that's all I did. You still have the 640k limit under MS-DOS…that's true of an XT or an AT using MS-DOS…but what EMS RAM does is allow programs that are designed to work with EMS RAM access that RAM as a "device" rather than as memory….however the effect is the same. Don
#2484From: Katherine CochraneOct 3, 1990 7:42 PM
Don, Thanks for the clarification. PCs are so messed up, it's hard for a simple little ol' Amiga user to comprehend all the ins and outs 😉 Kathy
#1351From: RON TROYSep 21, 1990 9:25 PM
Katherine, I came in late on this one; what are you trying to do? Ron
#1905From: Katherine CochraneSep 27, 1990 10:15 PM
Ron, Sorry to be so late answering. What I was trying to do was put an accelerator card (386) on my XT bridgeboard. I've since given up and ordered an XT to do what I need to do (kind of a sidecar to my "main machine" — Amiga, of course). Kathy
#1949From: RON TROYSep 28, 1990 6:42 AM
Sounds like a waste of money and space to me, but I don't know your situation. For me, other then not having Amouse available and being limited to cga, the bb, using the SOTA accellerator, works very nicely. Of course, I don't have space for a second computer. Ron
#2485From: Katherine CochraneOct 3, 1990 7:44 PM
Ron, Well, it is rather wasteful, but I really need PC ability for my database consulting. Also, since I'm getting set to do hypermedia development on the PC, and that will require some hardware extensions, it's better to do it with a closer-to-IBM (in terms of H/W) clone than the BB. Besides, I'm running out of slots in my 2000! Katy
#2489From: RON TROYOct 3, 1990 8:57 PM
I do know the slot shortage well! Ron
#1565From: Peter CookeSep 23, 1990 8:40 PM
<showing up late> sheesh, it is most definitely a pity the Inboard won't work w/BridgeBoards, since it is the only one that is a true DX (full 32-bit data path, 4 Terabyte virtual memory) as opposed to SX cards like SOTA's model. As to price, I almost purchased the SOTA card since it would piggyback my disk drive card, but where I'm at, it's much more expensive (and didn't even come w/any memory) than the Inboard. This is only logical, since Intel is the supplier of those chipsets. One "expensive" feature about the Inboard is the memory expansion: it's proprietary, and costs about $300/meg. For the price of an Inboard and 4 extra megabytes of memory, you can now purchase an entire 25 Mhz equivalent 386, and use the dirt-cheap SIP/SIMMS. From what I've seen, the Inboard's going to be a dumping ground for their slow chips, and eventually most users will just buy another 386, the mistake I made. Take care and thank you for your time, Peter
#1784From: Mark SterlingSep 26, 1990 9:00 PM
Peter, Yep, I would just buy a whole 386 machine before getting an inboard and Intel's expensive ram card. Fortunately I don't need that much speed and a 10-12 mHz 286 card will give me the necessary speed increase. I would still buy a separate machine except that there is only room for one machine on my desk and I LIKE my Amiga but need a clone too. …Mark