CompuServe Thread

HD Recovery help.

22 messages in this thread
#1189From: New memberSep 27, 1990 10:32 PM
Advise Needed: I have done it. Managed to wipe out 279 Megs of stuff…. I feel SICK! What happened was that I used messydos incorrectly. I managed to format the first 80 tracks of my HD. The total number of blocks ruined by my stupidity were not that many but…. I have an Oooold copy of Disk Mechanic that has NEVER worked for me. I asked the owner at a show about it and he said to call for an update. Well I'm not a big fan of his company but…. Does anyone know the current address phone? I have the original disk right in front of me and guess what? No number nothing! Anyone have any advise on another program I should get maybe> this is the worst? H e L p! !?!?
#1198From: Don Curtis/SYSOPSep 27, 1990 11:58 PM
Jay, Try DiskSalv. Don
#1254From: Steven D. KapplinSep 29, 1990 11:30 PM
Don, DiskSalv probably won't work on the hard drive because you must restore to a floppy, and my experience with DiskSalv is that once you fill one floppy disk, that's it. I have had little success with DiskSalv on a hard drive including many lock ups and gurus. In fact, it rarely works successfully restoring even floppies. Version 1.42 invariably gurus immediately after recovery and before finishing. I've never gotten it to work to restore a hard drive.
#1264From: J. Scott ThayerSep 30, 1990 10:48 AM
Steve, I am not sure why you would say that BUT, I just resurrected a 47 meg partition on my hard drive last night using disksalv. I have 5 partitions on my drive and the command was simply disksalv dh3: to dh2: . It TOOK AWHILE but I wound up losing ONE file. Scott
#1284From: Steven D. KapplinSep 30, 1990 7:07 PM
Well, in my case I don't have a second partition large enough, which you apparently do. However, I've never been able to get disksalv to work completely through a recovery without guru'ing. I guess it works for you, which is all that counts.
#1268From: Kevin UshkoSep 30, 1990 1:25 PM
Jay, I just used DiskSalv 1.42 to recover a single file on my "Janus" Drive to RAM: using the ASK option. You can restore to any device you want, not just floppies. It takes a while, but if the data is still there (hasn't been formatted/reused) it works pretty well. You are probably right about only being able to fill up one floppy. But if you want to spend a little time you could probably restore a bunch of single files. Kevin Ushko Edmonton, Alberta
#1285From: Steven D. KapplinSep 30, 1990 7:09 PM
Kevin, I've tried many times, but disksalv 1.42 consistently gurus when I've tried it, but if it works for you, great. I've not had that success.
#1343From: Steve PietrowiczOct 1, 1990 3:34 PM
What size is your stack when you try and run disksalv? Steve
#1407From: Steve AhlstromOct 2, 1990 11:46 AM
Steve, Good point — stack size might be a problem. I run with a 20k stack size. -sja
#1442From: Steve PietrowiczOct 3, 1990 5:36 PM
I got soooo sick of running into stack problems that I finally cranked it up to 50K. 🙂 Steve
#1440From: Steven D. KapplinOct 3, 1990 4:53 PM
Steve, I always run a stack of 40000.
#1272From: Steve AhlstromSep 30, 1990 3:34 PM
Steven, I've used DiskSalv _many_ times from HD. And no, it must not go to floppy only. You can restore to any device. When I accidently delete a file on one HD I'll "disksalv dha: dhc: ASK". Works just fine. -sja
#1286From: Steven D. KapplinSep 30, 1990 7:11 PM
Steve, I've never been able to get disksalv to work reliably for restoring files without gurus. I know I can restore to another hard drive, but you must first have another hard drive (or partition) to which files may go. In my case, if the large partition goes I have no other partition large enough. Even the small partition is to large to recover to the large partition because the large one is mostly full. I just wish I knew why disksalv won't work reliably on my system.
#1291From: Steve AhlstromSep 30, 1990 8:17 PM
Steven, I still don't see a problem — restore to floppy. When disksalv fills a disk you get a prompt that says "DISK FULL Insert New Disk Into Device DF0:, Format or Continue [?]". I just tried it, it works fine. I usually don't do this since I do have enough unused HD space.
#1437From: Steven D. KapplinOct 3, 1990 4:46 PM
Steve, Well, I seem to have received universally similar reactions to what I thought was not too controversial an issue! I can only say that my experience with disksalv has not been at all like everyone else who has replied. I have tried putting in the next disk, but disksalv has always locked up or guru'd once that was done. Further, it has never successfully completed a recovery of any kind without guru'ing at the very end of the recovery or during it. The older version, 1.3 or 1.2, always seemed to work, but 1.4 and 1.42 have not. That's my experience, which now appears to be rather unique. I guess I can only conclude that something in my system setup conflicts with disksalv, and that none of those who have replied must have a similar setup. That would be all I could think of to explain my unusual experience. Perhaps you know of something that disksalv doesn't like and could relate that to me, then I could determine why I have a problem no one else seems to experience. I have also had similarly disappointing experience with the new program, recover-II, recently posted. When I try to log into df0: it gurus. BTW I have tried disksalv both with Blitzdisk running and without, so I am pretty sure that's not the problem.
#1444From: Bob RakoskyOct 3, 1990 5:54 PM
Steven, I believe that DiskSalv requires some of the standard WorkBench files (like the Disk-Validator). If you are attempting to salvage your SYS: partition, then that could cause the types of problems you are experiencing, as DiskSalv inhibits it's source drive at the DOS level, so it appears as "Not a DOS disk" to the system. Consequently, the files normally found on SYS: can't be found while it is running. An alternative would be to boot from a floppy-based workbench disk when attempting to salvage from your standard SYS: HD partition. Hope this helps… …BobR White Wolf Productions
#1524From: Steven D. KapplinOct 5, 1990 7:59 PM
Bob, Well, all the standard files are on the hard drive, although the c: directory files have been replaced with their arp equivalents. However, everything in l: or libs: directories are there. I don't believe I have ever tried booting from a floppy to recover from the hard drive, but that wouldn't be a factor when trying simply to recover one floppy to another.
#1317From: MicroSearch/Greg WhiteOct 1, 1990 1:58 AM
DiskSalv works fine across multiple floppies. When it fills one up it ask what you want to do. If you press 'c' for Change it will prompt you to switch to a new floppy. Greg Greg White / MicroSearch 72230,1617 We listen to our customers..carefully
#1439From: Steven D. KapplinOct 3, 1990 4:53 PM
Greg, I know, but when I try that disksalv gurus on me or locks up, but it won't work on my system.
#1525From: Skip DyrdaOct 5, 1990 8:17 PM
Sorry to barge in here but I used Disksalv once to restore my hard drive and I did it from one partition to another. Naturally the destination partition was empty. I believe I had about 22 megs or so on the partition I used Disksalv on. I have had lots of problems with my HD's and this was how I had to correct one. Mostly, I get a read/write error on start-up, especially if it sat for awhile. A warm reboot is always successful. At this time I'm using a Trumpcard 500 with an 84 meg Seagate but my problems were much worse when I had a Syquest hooked up to it. Anyway, Disksalv really saved me a LOT of time and I was even going to write a thank-you note to Dave H. but you know how good intentions are:-). If I misunderstood your message or anything, my apologies in advance.
#1604From: Steven D. KapplinOct 7, 1990 7:07 PM
SKip, No problem. I had been relating my unsuccessful experiences with DiskSalve 1.42.
#1253From: Steven D. KapplinSep 29, 1990 11:28 PM
Jay, It's unlikely that you can recover files if you actually formatted the tracks, because the format process doesn't erase files, it actually writes new data to the tracks. Probably, you needn't worry about getting a new copy of that program, but rather restoring files some other fashion. You could try DiskDoctor as a way of restoring what is restorable, then copying that to backup disks, reformatting the entire drive and then restoring the recovered files.