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#IDE Drive MaxTransfer

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#63458From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsSep 2, 1993 6:00 PM
Attn: All IDE Hard Disk Users: Set your MaxTransfer in your Rigid Disk Block (RDB) to be 65024 (i.e., one block less than 64kbytes). This is a limitation of IDE drives (or at least many of them). Setting it higher (such as the RDPrep default setting) will cause less than optimal operation. RDprep defaults were created with SCSI in mind, not IDE. –Redmond
#63783From: Richard GraffSep 7, 1993 10:54 AM
I tried setting the MaxTransfer to 65024 as you suggested on my A1200 and it made the drive unusable, the system reported that it wasn't a DOS drive. I had to reformat to get it back. =Rick=
#63798From: Fred MurraySep 7, 1993 1:50 PM
I've changed my Maxtransfer value at least a hundred times without a problem! be sure if you are using RDPREP to READ THE RIGID-DISK-BLOCK before making ANY changes! later!
#63813From: Richard GraffSep 7, 1993 5:50 PM
Your guess was right, I wasn't reading the RDB before changing the "Maxtrans" and saving the RDB. I assummed that RDPREP did that when first started, I usually get myself in trouble when I assume anything <G>. Thanks =Rick=
#63802From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsSep 7, 1993 2:29 PM
Huh? I don't understand that result at all !!! You should be able to change the MaxTransfer *downward* with no problems at all. –Redmond
#63814From: Richard GraffSep 7, 1993 5:50 PM
Fred corrected my problem, I wasn't reading the RDB before changing any values, so that when I saved the RDB, I must have been changing something else that made the drive unreadable as well. BTW, what other than buffers/hypercache can be manipulated to increase drive performance, my A1200 hass an 84meg conner IDE drive. =Rick=
#63895From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsSep 8, 1993 4:20 PM
Periodic de-fragging will of course help. I don't have a lot of experience hands-on with the drive interface in the A1200, so I rely on others in the shop for expertise. I'll see if I can work up a laundry list of items for optimization. –Redmond
#63957From: Robert ComerSep 9, 1993 12:06 AM
I'd appreciate it too! Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot! From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#63847From: Jonathan SchmidtSep 7, 1993 11:09 PM
Redmond, I currently have my MaxTrnsfer set to 130560. Is this bad? Should I set it to the lower setting? I have been having unexplained/unreproducable/intermittent system Guru's. Since I have been running on the stock 1200 with the 1230-XA and 8MB of RAM, I have been thinking it is a power problem. I can't be sure until I get my Bigfoot… hopefully by the end of this week. Just wondering what I should do… Thanks, JDSoftware Jonathan Schmidt – On AutoPilot from CompuServe Land
#63885From: Fred MurraySep 8, 1993 11:09 AM
Do you have the A600 power supply? My 1200 came with an A500 power supply (which provides about 50% more power than the A600's power supply) Supposedly Seagates and Western Digital IDE's can run fine with large maxtransfer values…others should be set to just under 64k. later!
#63887From: Jonathan SchmidtSep 8, 1993 12:16 PM
Nope… I got the standard 1200 power supply which is the same as the 600 I am told. I will have to wait until I get the bigfoot to be sure that I have enough juice. I also want to put a High Density drive inside the 1200. I don't know if you know anything about this but supposedly, you can remove the housing around the DD drive and the HD drive and switch them… putting the HD drive into the case. Jon
#63958From: Robert ComerSep 9, 1993 12:06 AM
I have a Bigfoot, so power's not my problem… I couldn't get the shell from the orginal A1200 floppy to fit the HiD floppy I have… (I had the same idea.) Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot! From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#63970From: Jonathan SchmidtSep 9, 1993 6:59 AM
Robert, So did you get the other shell to fit into the 1200? I have heard from a dealer here in Columbus that he has done this before but I'm not sure how… JDSoftware Jonathan Schmidt – On AutoPilot from CompuServe Land
#64047From: Robert ComerSep 10, 1993 3:03 AM
No I didn't. Myabe I'll give it another shot though… Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot! From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#64028From: Joe BuckleySep 9, 1993 9:33 PM
Bob, So did you get the HiD floppy in there at all? If so, how. I wouldn't mind squeezing one in, myself. (Take it from me, I LIKE squeezing things into my A1200…like my 3.5" Maxtor HD!) Joe
#64049From: Robert ComerSep 10, 1993 3:03 AM
Unfortunately not… I'm going to try going with the HiD floppy external. I haven't gotten around to it yet. (I have a patch that supposed to let Amiga's use one as an external.) Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot! From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#64107From: Joe BuckleySep 11, 1993 10:13 AM
Bob, Thanks. What are the dimensions of the floppy as compared to the unit that comes stock with the 1200? Which floppy did you get? The one listed for the 2000 or the 3000? Is there any real difference between the two? I called Software Hut and got what seems to be their standard reply of late on the external HiDex drives: In about a month. Joe P.S. Would you want to move this over to USER/HARDWARE? I'm not sure how much non-Micrbotics talk Redmond will let slide by! O:) (BTW, I'm still waiting for that guy to get his 1230XA/50MHz back from the shop, Redmond!)
#64156From: Robert ComerSep 11, 1993 11:03 PM
Probabaly should take it over to Amigauser… I believe (I haven't measured) the the floppy in the 1200 is a 1/3 height drive, and the HiD floppy, is a 1/2 height. What this means, is that the the HiD floppy is about a 1/4" to tall. I'll look at my 1200's floppy again within the next few days, and I'll try to tell you more… Oh, and I have the A3000 version, and I think that only the faceplate is different between the 2000/3000/4000 versions. The 3000 version fit's great in an A500, but you need to make an eject button. Bob Comer — Flying high and fast with my A1200HD'030 on Autopilot! From Cheyenne, Wyoming U.S.A.
#64098From: HelmetSep 11, 1993 1:49 AM
Haha! How'd you squeeze a 3.5" Maxtor in your 1200! -HELMET
#64106From: Joe BuckleySep 11, 1993 10:09 AM
Tom, It took a bit of work (not major, but interesting) to get it in there. It "mounts" in the same spot that the 2.5" IDE would go, but without the mounting frame used for the small drives. I have worked up a "hack" file that I've posted on the AMIGA HACKS FidoNet echo. If there is interest, I could upload the files here. Joe P.S. I did need a new power supply. A Big Foot would do, but I got a 192W clone supply set up now. BTW, this exact conversation is going on over in USER/HARDWARE. Someone else asked if a 3.5" IDE could be used just a few days ago!
#63896From: R. Simonsen/MicroBoticsSep 8, 1993 4:23 PM
Set it to 65024 or less. IDE drive firmware (usually) is limited to the environment of the ibmpc ISA bus and its expectations as to maximum transfer sizes. –Redmond