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Lapidary & Collecting

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#143897From: Al BalmerAug 29, 1994 9:28 PM
Guy, >> There be lapidaries here Glad to hear it. I don't have as much time to pursue the sport as I'd like, but do occasionally cut a rock. I'll probably be posting a question occasionally. I actually spend more time collecting, at least when it's warm enough. Matter of fact, I like to extend summer a bit by heading for the SW in the fall. I've done quite a bit in upstate NY (home) and would be glad to hear from others interested in the local minerals. I'm mostly interested in lapidary material and hand specimens, although many of our local mineral society (a section of the Rochester Academy of Science) are micro collectors. >> thundereggs, would be pretty boring without a lapidary cutting them in >> half Agreed – some I've collected were pretty boring even after cutting. I sometimes have a hard time identifying leaverite in the field. Regards, Al
#143968From: caroline weintzAug 30, 1994 6:21 PM
"upstate NY' I am travelling to Cooperstown and Lake George with my children who like "collecting rocks." Can you suggest any nearby sites (or pubications detailing them) for rock hounding or fossil collecting that would have enough simple interest to hook a child? Thanks
#144111From: Al BalmerAug 31, 1994 9:21 PM
>> Cooperstown and Lake George Almost due north of Cooperstown (maybe 25 miles) is the town of Herkimer, which the famous Herkimer "diamonds" are named for. There are two fee sites five miles or so north of Herkimer in the town of Middleville, both on route 28. This is not too far out of your way to Lake George, and is a great spot for kids. Look for the "Ace of Diamonds" and the "Herkimer Diamond Mine and Campground". If you are serious about a money-making strike, plan to spent a week and do some real hard-rock mining. Even then, you'll probably find that the children have picked up more off the ground <g>. Seriously, the easy way to get nice specimens is finding them loose or using a crack hammer on the rocks the pros have left behind. Kids are usually much better at spotting them than adults. There are fossils all over the state – any time you see a road cut in shale you're likely to find some, but I don't know much about fossils. One interesting spot is in a road cut near Central Bridge on I88. The cut is full of pyritized fossils. They weather out of the rock or can be dislodged with a pick. That's 30 or 40 miles east of Cooperstown. (It's technically illegal to park on an interstate, but you can get well off the road, and the troopers never say anything.) The only up-to-date book I know of is "Rock Collecting in New York 1993, with Maps" by David Mills, Rock Doc, RR 1 Box 127, Friendsville, PA 18818. Sorry, I don't have a telephone number, and I haven't seen the book for sale except at shows. You could probably find "Mineral and Gem Trails, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut" by Ed & Bert Sloan in a rock shop, but it's very dated (1975). I'm not really familiar with the Lake George area. You might call Vandall King, president of the Rochester Mineral Society at 716-288-0059. Van is a consulting minerologist and an avid collector. Have fun, Al
#144144From: Don KenneySep 1, 1994 2:43 AM
Sounds stupid, but try any roadcut or streambed in the area from about 10 miles North of US20 South to the PA state line. Most will yield some fossils. If you see a place where people have been digging in the roadcut, you know you'll find something of interest. The South edge of Lake George is pretty much the limit of fossil collecting incidentally. The is some fossiliferous Ordovician North of there, but you need to know where to look. There are some commercial areas for collecting "Herkimer diamonds" — nice clear quartz crystals along one of the North South highways North of the Thruway in the Herkimer, Little Falls area (Been too many years–can't remember which road). But make sure they have a kids area where the kids can pick thru rubble for small crystals, because the serious collecting is done by bashing big boulders of very hard sandstone with sledge hammers.
#144176From: jerry dedrickSep 1, 1994 12:59 PM
…….also, a bit farther northeast is Gore Mountain, famous for its garnet mines. As far as fossils go: On Rte. 20 they are Silurian, and Rte. 20 is great picking for its whole length. South of Rte. 20 it turns to Devonian. And it STAYS Devonian well into Pa., where it turns (of course) into Pennsylvanian and Mississippian. Minerals in NY are scarce except in the North Country and on the eastern edge. ……JayDee (in the heartland of Devonian, with no minerals. Sigh.)
#144361From: Al BalmerSep 2, 1994 10:56 PM
>> Herkimer, Little Falls area (Been too many years–can't remember which >> road). Route 28. The town of Fonda also has a fee area, but it closes after this weekend. >> kids area where the kids can pick thru rubble for small crystals I don't think there's a specific area for kids, but there are large areas where kids (and grownups) can pick thru rubble – and sometimes for good-sized crystals. >> bashing big boulders of very hard sandstone I wish it were! <g> The rock is actually dolomite and much harder than any sandstone I've ever seen. The really serious collecting is done by peeling away the rock face looking for pockets. I've heard some of the pros say that they average about four 8 hour days per pocket. Tough way to make a very slim living. Al
#144496From: Elizabeth R. BondSep 3, 1994 8:27 PM
"Roadside Geology of New York" by Bradford B. Van Diver (Mountain Press Publishing Co, 1985, 1989) is a fun and complete book *NOT* aimed at kids. Depending on the age of your children, you may have to do a bit of 'translating' — but, assuming you will be driving yourself, this book will answer many kids' questions ("Is that quartz or marble?" " How come that rock is all twisted?" etc). I grew up in the Adirondacks, about 45 miles from Lake George. If at all possible, I recommend that you get the kids and yourself out away from Lake George Village — either around the east/west/north sides of the lake, or preferably, into the mountains. Follow the Hudson to NorthCreek/NorthRiver (which will take you to the foot of Gore Mtn, the garnet mine region: watch for signs or ask any local resident), or head north (either side of the lake) then west into the high peaks region. The chair-lift ride is well worth the fabulous views. If you're stuck in the village area of LG, the big boat cruise is an afternoon's diversion. Also, the near-by fort at Ticonderoga is interesting to most kids. As an area of fair precipitation, most areas in New York State are well-covered in vegetation, hence the attraction of road-cuts noted in other messages of this thread. Get your car well off the road and watch the traffic (I speak as a former NYS driver!). Have fun! — E.