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#Floppy/CD problem

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#209475From: Peter JonesAug 23, 1995 4:52 PM
I have a floppy disk drive problem on my A4000/40, WB3.1. DF0: does not recognise an Amiga formatted disk when inserted while the system is running. I get the DF0:NDOS icon. However, I can boot from the same disk! Also, when using Shapeshifter, a floppy already in the drive when the Mac is booted will be recognised, whereas a floppy inserted afterwards will not. This problem has arisen at the same time as I am having problems reading CDs. Using the Index Guide on Aminet 7 fails more often than not. Either the file is not decompressed to RAM, or fails to be displayed or played. I can move the files with DirOpus, though. The only visible sign is that I get a yellow screen on reboot. Never when the computer is first booted, but always on reset. Any help would be much appreciated. Pete
#209525From: Brian BartlettAug 24, 1995 2:20 AM
Peter, try reseating the 68000 CPU chip. Come to think of it, almost all all other chips as well. If those don't fix it, do a complete reinstall of the system software, although I don't expect much from that, since your CPU is complaining about problems before the GURU is even running. Lastly, you may also have a disk drive alignment problem. Any chance you have a store nearby that can align the diskdrive? Brian Been there…. Done that…. Better.
#209537From: Ian J. EinmanAug 24, 1995 5:07 AM
Are you using MFS, or CrossDOS, or CRossMAC, or something similar? Something, a device driver or something, is screwing things up. If you do not use MFS, try using it. It may be related to your CD driver. What driver do you use for your CD-ROM? I have had similar problems with my CD-ROM drive, but no floppy problems. It is a driver and software problem, NOT a hardware problem, I am fairly sure.
#209576From: Peter JonesAug 24, 1995 4:29 PM
Ian, Thanks for the suggestions. The problem has simplified a little. I CAN read Amiga disks. I stupidly picked up a magazine game disk which was NDOS, but would boot. I have taken the A4000 to pieces and put it together again. The yellow screen on reset was still there, but not for long. It has now mysteriously disappeared, at least for the moment. So now I have two problems which might, or might not, be related. The MAC system under Shapeshifter will not recognise a disk unless that disk is in the drive on boot-up. The second problem is the CDROM drive. If, for instance, I place an Aminet CD in the drive, and click on the index icon, this opens an Amiga Guide program showing all the directories. Clicking on a directory works most of the time, but occasionally, it fails saying something like it couldn't locate AMINET7:Lists/Part-idv/mods_rock/mods_rock. The second 'mods_rock" shouldnt be there. If the directory is found, then clicking on a compressed file should, in this case, decompress the file, call up the audio-player and start to play the music. Nothing happens, except that there is a disk read for a while and then the cursor returns to an arrow. I can, however, go to DOpus, move the same file to RAM: and decompress without problems. I am using the AmiCDrom software, by the way. I shall investigate device drivers, as you suggest. Any further thoughts from you that may be sparked off by the above would be most welcome. Pete
#209677From: Lieven LemaAug 25, 1995 3:39 PM
Peter, :The MAC system under Shapeshifter will not recognise a disk unless that :disk is in the drive on boot-up. I have the same problem using 3.1 of SS, so you can exclude this from the problems on your machine. According to the author there's a bug in the mfm.device V39.4, for which he gave me a workaround, but it still isn't fixed. I think I'll switch back to 3.0b, if still possible. Check the cables on your floppydrive… . – Lieven Lema
#209766From: Peter JonesAug 26, 1995 3:20 PM
Lieven, Thanks for the info. I tried Shapeshifter version 3.0 and that works ok, although my version of mfm.device is 40.9. Excellent advice on your part! I am now struggling with the CDROM, which worked fine before, and now is giving me all sorts of trouble, both on the Amiga side and the Mac side. We seem to be using very similar configurations. Maybe we should get together and exchange hints and tips. I'm in Sterrebeek. Where are you? Pete
#209814From: Lieven LemaAug 27, 1995 3:13 AM
Peter, oops, I have 3.1 too, so mfm.device is version 40.9 too, don't know where I got the number I stated you.<g> My CDROM is IDE-connected with the more than excellent ATAPI software, now called IDEFIX. no troubles at all there. I'd like to get together with you sometime, I'm in Strombeek, but I'm in the middle of redecoratring a house we bought, if you could hang on a few weeks… . – Lieven Lema
#209834From: Peter JonesAug 27, 1995 10:29 AM
Lieven, Good luck with the decorating! By the way, I have discovered that the CrossMac software has a modified mfm.device. Maybe that will solve the Shapeshifter 3.1 problem. I am picking it up tomorrow. Will let you know. Pete
#209933From: Lieven LemaAug 28, 1995 2:12 AM
Peter, it's actually rebuilding, the 'knocking down walls'-part was easy enough, it's building back up that takes time. Regarding mfm.device, christian Bauer sent me a patch, had to fiddle with a few bytes in a hexeditor, but that doesn't work. Apparantly we're the only ones with this problem, noone else seems to have them, I guess we have installed something lately that is bothering the good functioning of our machines, if only I knew what… . – Lieven Lema
#209958From: Peter JonesAug 28, 1995 12:09 PM
Lieven, As you no doubt will have seen before you read this message. I have e-mailed to you the modified mfm.device. Shapeshifter 3.1 can read floppies with this device installed, with the one caveat that the busy light stays on all the time. If only you and I were having this problem, then at some time, we should sit down and compare everything we have installed or have running on our respective beasts. Have fun with the rebuilding and keep the thumb well away from the destination of the hammer. <g> Pete
#210046From: Lieven LemaAug 29, 1995 8:28 AM
Peter, :with the one caveat that the busy light stays on all the time. Have to dissapoint you there, everything is perfect now. If and when my registration comes in (should be here in a couple of days) I'll let you know how my CDROM is behaving, we'll meet between 9 and 15 september, in that week I'll promise myself some time off, leave the hammer from my thumb for a while…<g>. . – Lieven Lema
#209844From: John T AbneyAug 27, 1995 12:10 PM
Peter, Re: "…problem is the CDROM drive…Aminet…works most of the time, but occasionally, it fails…" I too had a similar problem running Aminet CDs under the AmigaDOS 3.1 device driver on my A3000. The cure was buying AsimCDFS CD-ROM Control Software (v3.0) by Asimware Innovations Inc. of Hamilton Ontario, Canada (info@asimware.com). As wonderful as the Aminet CDs are, I feel I gained much more by buying AsimCDFS. Not only were the Aminet CDs better behaved, I also gained the ability to run <some> CD32 and CDTV titles. The thing, though, which gladdened my heart was how musical CDDA (regular music) CDs sound when played under the latest revision (3.1) of the AsimCDFS software – even on a cheap single-speed CD-ROM drive. My test of any CD player (or any new audio equipment) is to play the title cut from Paul Simon's "Graceland." If I start tapping my foot, that means the spirit and rhythm of the music is getting through to me. If I hear something in the music which I had never noticed before, that means detail in the recording is getting through to me. And if I stay up half the night listening to other old favorites that means I've found a winner. I experienced all three with my Amiga controlling an-under-$100.00 CD-ROM player using AsimCDFS v3.1. As soon as I can, I hope to get a CD-ROM player which will allow CDDA direct digital transfer (e.g. Sony or Toshiba) to my hard drive and thus to my SunRize AD516. The AsimCDFS software is supposed to support that with the right drive. Highly recommended. -John "…there is no such thing as a bad tube amp"
#209875From: Steve BrightmanAug 27, 1995 4:19 PM
John, Judging from your signature I'm surprised you'd tap your foot (or even inflict your ears) with anything coming off a CD-ROM <vbg> Steve Daring to be different, Amiga on the Internet, Lotus on the Interstatee
#210225From: John T AbneyAug 30, 1995 11:14 PM
Steve, Re: My signature and the fact that I "inflict…ears with…CD-ROM." Actually, I edited out my usual <semi-obligatory> pro-analog plug when preparing my message <g>. I've been reading the postings praising the excellent s/n ratio in the Amiga forums, you see, and I didn't want to be the one to turn the forum into the online version of a cheapo one-brand "rack system hifi" <vbg>. I hope the Amiga starts getting noticed for how well it fits-in with an audio system which honors music played on it. I'm starting to hear differences due to <software> when recording or playing digital audio on my 3000. It makes sense when you think about it, but I was still surprised the first time I noticed an audio CD 'skipping' when I did some heavy multitasking. -John "…there is no such thing as a bad tube amp"
#210233From: Steve BrightmanAug 31, 1995 12:40 AM
> I hope the Amiga starts getting noticed for how well it fits-in with an audio system which honors music played on it. Many of us hope it gets noticed for anything 🙂 Actually having been an Amiga user since 1987 I'm still amazed at how well the old girl seems to attack almost any task. And BTW, I'm pleased to meet an analog guy who's not too proud to soil his hands in the digital domain 😉 Steve Brightman Daring to be different – Amiga on the Internet – Lotus on the Interstate
#209955From: Peter JonesAug 28, 1995 11:54 AM
John, Thanks for the AsimCDFS tip. It was something I was considering. You have pushed me into trying it. Pete
#210226From: John T AbneyAug 30, 1995 11:14 PM
Pete, The only 'regret' I have about getting the AsimCDFS software was that I learned that they make MasterISO software for rolling-your-own CDs on an Amiga. And now I have to figure out a way to buy the MasterISO, a recordable CD-ROM drive, another 8 megs of RAM and at least a 1.8 gig hd. Let's see, if I buy generic rice cakes and vitamins… <g>. -John "…there is no such thing as a bad tube amp"