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#What I need to start

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#190676From: Hamid HeidarySep 13, 1995 3:18 PM
Hi, I wonder if anyone can tell me if I will need anything else to get started with programming IPAS routines and if my list of software is a good choice. I already own 3D Studio R4c1. I have been recommended the following: 3D Studio IPAS R4 Toolkit (DOS) and WATCOM C/C++10.0. Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -Brian.
#190743From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 13, 1995 8:56 PM
Hi Brian, << .. if I will need anything else to get started with programming IPAS routines>> #1. Please check out the entire contents of the software dev kit section of the library. There's alot of additional resources there for you. #2. Don't underestimate the examples found in the scripts section of the library for yielding additional insights into 3DS internal data structures. Consider using 3de and Keyscripting as a possible UI IPAS prototyping tool. << and if my list of software is a good choice? >> Please download.. File Info for IPAS4R.ME Section: Software Dev. Kits Contributor: 73172,1351 Size: 15217 Submitted: 1/17/95 Type: Text Accesses: 248 Title: IPAS4 ReadMe File Keys: IPAS IPAS4 README From Autodesk, Inc.: IPAS4 Readme file. Lists compiler/debugger support..
#190842From: Hamid HeidarySep 14, 1995 12:31 PM
Thanks, Jonas. I've just read the IPAS4 Readme file which has the list of compilers/debuggers you talked about, but is there any particular one of those compilers/debuggers that you consider the best/most useful? Thanks. -Brian
#190849From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 14, 1995 1:11 PM
Hi Brian, << ..most useful.. >> If you use Metaware, you'll have to also purchase the Pharlap SDK. Yost uses Metaware.
#190946From: Hamid HeidarySep 15, 1995 4:24 AM
Thanks, Jonas. You say that if I use Metaware, I will also need to purchase the Pharlap SDK; I have an information sheet describing the 3D STUDIO IPAS R4 TOOLKIT which says that the libraries included in the package will work with Watcom 9.5/10, Metaware 3.0/3.11 and the Phar Lap environments. This toolkit costs L299+VAT. If I decide to use Metaware, does this mean I will need to purchase another SDK also – or is the Pharlap SDK alone with Metaware sufficient? Thanks again. -Brian
#190971From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Sep 15, 1995 9:38 AM
Hi Hamid, << If I decide to use Metaware, does this mean I will need to purchase another SDK also – or is the Pharlap SDK alone with Metaware sufficient? >> I guess that the last issue is debugger support. If you have Metaware, Pharlap and IPAS for R4, then you have all that you need. This will also allow you to use the debugger. If you get Watcom, it ships with a lightweight Pharlap compatible dos extender – Dos4Gw, which will allow you to link correctly to our libraries, but will not allow you to use a debugger. If you purchase Pharlap along with Watcom, you can then use the debugger. jonas[adesk]
#191648From: Hamid HeidarySep 19, 1995 2:30 PM
Thanks Jonas – thats cleared up a lot of confusion on my part. Both options (Pharlap&Metaware or Pharlap&Watcom) would seem to be just as good as each other so I think I'll just draw short straws or something! Thanks alot for all your help. -Brian
#190814From: David GouldSep 14, 1995 10:10 AM
<<3D Studio IPAS R4 Toolkit (DOS) and WATCOM C/C++10.0.>> That will get you going for programming IPAS 4 routines, but just remember that 3DS MAX supports ONLY Micrsoft Visual C++ and no other compiler. DaviD "A scary thought: Microsoft as synonymous as Coca Cola" GouID
#190826From: Hamid HeidarySep 14, 1995 10:22 AM
Thanks for your help David. That IS a scary thought. – Brian.
#190878From: David RhotenSep 14, 1995 3:50 PM
David: Actually, there is an article the the latest INFOWORLD (Sept 11) that says that a draft of the C++ standard specification issued this summer, that has been granted preliminary approval by both ANSI and ISO, specifies a universal set of features and language extentions for all versions of C++. "This is a significant change from the current generation of tools that produce C++ applications inextricably tied to the compiler they were written with and the hardware they were designed for." It also says that "development tool vendors such as Borland International, Inc. and Microsoft Corp. are already hastening to adhere to the standard by integrating features defined by the specification — such as name spaces for facilitating team development and mproved automatic type conversion — into their current releases. Tools compliant with the draft will begin shipping from several major vendors as early as this fall." So, there IS hope that one _will_ be able to choose their compiler at some point. Dave
#190947From: Hamid HeidarySep 15, 1995 4:31 AM
Yes, I see what you mean – there are alot of compilers around and I'm experiencing difficulty in trying to get hold of information which would point out the differences between them and so on. Just out of interest – I wonder could you tell me whether any of the compilers below can help me with my TurboC++ programs which are running out of memory? Thanks – Brian.
#190970From: David RhotenSep 15, 1995 9:32 AM
>>any of the compilers below Below where? <g> You may have meant this for David Gould, but then again, I thought I was replying to him and got _you_! I've been out of the 'C' programming thing for a while, and am just now looking towards getting back in, based on the MAX future — so, I am pretty much in the dark, other than that I've been following the compiler issue WRT what will work w/ MAX. Dave
#191645From: Hamid HeidarySep 19, 1995 2:24 PM
That's wierd David; I dont know what happened there. Sorry about that. Thanks for your reply though! -Brian
#190988From: David GouldSep 15, 1995 12:42 PM
<<So, there IS hope that one _will_ be able to choose their compiler at some point.>> C++ is the language of choice for development under WinNT and quite possibly now for Win95. For this reason either the C++ language or the compilers will have to conform to a standard sooner or later that allows people to generate DLLs from just about anywhere and then have them ready to be called from anywhere, including other DLLs that aren't compiled with the same compiler. Though, who knows, Microsoft have the upper hand and may with to continue welding it. DaviD "Windows NT here I come…" GouID
#191644From: Hamid HeidarySep 19, 1995 2:21 PM
Thanks for your comments, David. I can see that the future seems to be in NT and 3DS MAX, but I dont use NT, and I probably wont be able to get hold of MAX, the company having just bought release 4. Thanks again -Brian