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#weird behavior

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#191698From: AL L. KRATZERSep 19, 1995 8:37 PM
Well, everytime I think I'm starting to like Animator Studio I discover something totally messed up that makes me wonder just what the deal is… Tonight I loaded a 306 frame animation, selected a 70 frame segment and marqueed a section and added a filter ink to it. (this took turning off the undo resources to get through, but was finally OK.) Playback of the newly altered movie was fine, but when I try to save, I get a message: SYSTEM IS OUT OF MEMORY OR OTHER RESOURCES. It leaves me with no choice but to bail out and lose the changes. Interesting thing is that this is on a P-5 60, 16 meg RAM, 590kb free DOS memory, A clean (two week old ) installation of Windows 3.11, 60meg swap file, clean install of AnimStudio, nothing running in the background, saving frequently, etc. Generally when I've seen Windows apps crash they just stop responding. Funny thing about this is that I can move around, turn on and off tool bars, minimize and start other programs, etc., but if I try to save, (save as, Close and save changes, whatever) NO GO! A quick check shows that I have 79% free resources at start up, 73% after AnimStudio launches and 60% when AS flakes out. Is 20 seconds of 320×240 animation *that* much of an assignment for AS to handle? Heck, it was an AVI that was saved at 256 colors (MS RLE) in Premiere before opening in AS. It was about 3.5 megabites. AS turned it into a 28 MEG file! I know it uncompresses the file, but at this rate one would need 90 or more MEG RAM to work on 30 seconds of video effectively! Any insight, help, excuses, mea culpas would be eagerly accepted… Thanks! Al
#191740From: dave aguilarSep 20, 1995 1:44 AM
>> before opening in AS. It was about 3.5 megabites. AS turned it into a 28 MEG file! I know it uncompresses the file, but at this rate one would need 90 or more MEG RAM to work on 30 seconds of video effectively! << sounds like you're saving using 24-bit lossless codec. what settings/compression codec are you set for? -dave
#191763From: AL L. KRATZERSep 20, 1995 7:59 AM
Dave The file was "saved" without compression by no choice of mine. I had the compression set to RLE 256 colors. After the reboot the file came back uncompressed. it's interesting that changes made to a shorter 20 frame segment using the same filter ink and settings saved fine, it was just when I tried a 70 frame segment that the problem arose. Also later attempts gave an error: "OLE EXCEPTION: FACILITY:4, ERROR 0x40c7". Any ideas what that means? Thanks! Al
#191798From: dave aguilarSep 20, 1995 10:58 AM
hi again. all the info on your hardwares seems okay… but one key component left out. what' your graphics card, and are you using proprietary graphics drivers for it? (just checking all bases) -dave
#191853From: AL L. KRATZERSep 20, 1995 4:19 PM
Dave I'm using an ATI mach32 (ati version 2.3 drivers). Further experiments show Microsoft RLE compression results in fragmented images and broken up video (not due to playback but within each rendered frame). AUTODESK RLE saves in million color rez, but when I use it in Adobe Premiere I have the option of different color depth options. How can I control this inside of Anim Studio? I'll try some more things and let you know… Al
#191930From: dave aguilarSep 21, 1995 2:42 AM
>> different color depth options. How can I control this inside of Anim Studio? I'll try some more things and let you know… << check out Settings/Compression options… so far as i know, control happens either through this panel (AVI CODEC or 256 color options and panel) or by using another image's palette. please keep me in the loop on this.. i'm taking notes.<g> -dave
#193706From: Timi AgamaOct 3, 1995 6:29 AM
Al I am running AS on win 95 and 3.11 (seperate machines) and I get your ole exception….. message when trying to 'save as' .avi to .fli / .flc.Did you get a reply to your question on what this error message is and what can be done about it timi
#193719From: AL L. KRATZEROct 3, 1995 8:46 AM
Timi No reply/suggestions have been forthcoming. It's funny, overall AStudio has great tools, but for me performance is a problem. Whenever I bring it up w/ADESK they seem to insist that it's my personal problem (setup,config etc.) I've been trying to get the latest Win95 friendly version, but so far no luck. I'm basically at a standstill with the program at this point. Al
#193782From: dave aguilarOct 3, 1995 1:50 PM
>> I am running AS on win 95 and 3.11 (seperate machines) and I get your ole exception….. message when trying to 'save as' .avi to .fli / .flc.Did you get a reply to your question on what this error message is and what can be done about it << again, AAS was not written for Win95 in its first two versions (r1c0 and r1c1)… however, r1.1 is now shipping which will cure this symptom on both Win3.x and Win95 platforms. just uploaded a general notice on this. -dave
#193831From: AL L. KRATZEROct 3, 1995 5:41 PM
Dave Thanks for the info! Al
#193993From: David RhotenOct 4, 1995 12:03 PM
Dave: What's with this weird numbering? I mean, SOP for Autodesk is r#c# — what's with this #.# business, all the sudden? r1 –> r1c1 –> r1.1 ??? BTW, on the inside edge of the c1 CD, it says C1, and on the inside edge of the 1.1 CD, it says C2!! Dave
#194014From: dave aguilarOct 4, 1995 2:16 PM
>> What's with this weird numbering? I mean, SOP for Autodesk is r#c# — what's with this #.# business, all the sudden? r1 –> r1c1 –> r1.1 ??? << <gg> can't answer that one. i don't work for Autodesk. but… the rev number usually indicates a major upgrade and the c# usually indicates a patch. >> BTW, on the inside edge of the c1 CD, it says C1, and on the inside edge of the 1.1 CD, it says C2!! << since r1.1 (c2) is out now, and yes, c2 is on the CD, internally, i believe r1.1 was called r1c2 for a while and perhaps c2 was never removed at production time. in any case… r1.1 is the latest version, compatible on all windows platforms except NT. and actually it seems pretty stable there too. -dave
#194018From: tom marlinOct 4, 1995 2:41 PM
<<since r1.1 (c2) is out now, and yes, c2 is on the CD, internally, i believe r1.1 was called r1c2 for a while and perhaps c2 was never removed . . . . . . . . . . .. . >> SHEESH! I can see I've got some catching up to do. I bought the original release of Animator Studio. I had many problems with it that I thought would have been solved with a more powerful system. Now I've upgraded and am ready to reload the program. What do I have to do to catch up with the current release, etc.?? BTW, I don't think I've ever sent in my registration, but I still have my receipt and all that stuff. Tom Marlin Studios
#194022From: dave aguilarOct 4, 1995 3:20 PM
>> SHEESH! I can see I've got some catching up to do. I bought the original release of Animator Studio. I had many problems with it that I thought would have been solved with a more powerful system. Now I've upgraded and am ready to reload the program. What do I have to do to catch up with the current release, etc.?? BTW, I don't think I've ever sent in my registration, but I still have my receipt and all that stuff. << SEND IN THE REGISTRATION!!!! <gg> i serious. the latest release R1.1 is wonderful and Win95 compatible… speed is faster, some problems resolved, very stable. it's well worth it, and shipping. hey, it's free! -dave