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#6809

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#179928From: SyndesisDec 28, 1994 12:31 PM
Wow, you're still playing with 6809s?
#180045From: Black Belt SystemsDec 29, 1994 1:16 AM
Still playing with 6809's? Uh, yes. 🙂 They're fun. Why? –Ben …via AutoPilot
#180082From: SyndesisDec 29, 1994 9:55 AM
Are you just tinkering with them, or are you making hi-tech toys, or both? I saw a PDP/11 emulator on the Net, if you want it. 🙂
#180099From: Black Belt SystemsDec 29, 1994 11:51 AM
Well, it's tinkering, really… the things I've made don't really have a market… for instance, a fuzzy rock-saw advance based on clarity of exit spray from the cut in the rock, my train set controller, and a couple of HAM projects. A PDP-11 emulator? Uh, no. 🙂 But thanks anyway. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#180114From: Dale LarsonDec 29, 1994 12:35 PM
What the hell is the point of a PDP/11 emulator? The idea is to get a manly ig ungodly model so that you have to wire your house with 3-phase and can t rn off your heating system throughought the winter. I only had a tiny PDP/11, and I gave it to Randell for his basement museum.
#180137From: SyndesisDec 29, 1994 5:15 PM
I've got a Terak, an 11/03-based system, as well as a DEC Pro 350, a J-11 VAX chip system, among others in the basement computer museum. I've been chatting with a guy who's got a Rainbow for sale, except it would cost about $60 to ship, and he wanted $30 for it, and I'm not sure it's worth it, unless I can start charging admission. 🙂 This PDP emulator sounds like fun, actually. Run all those nifty programs we used to run in a DOS window under WinNT. 🙂 As for excess heat, I have an SGI Indigo for that. I know that I can turn the heat down with impunity when I leave it on overnight.
#180144From: Dale LarsonDec 29, 1994 5:55 PM
I guess that's true. A PDP is like a boiler. My SparcStation is like a cer mic furnace. 🙂
#180386From: Jay TruesdaleDec 31, 1994 5:09 PM
The company I work for still makes and ships embedded products with 6809's (the Hitachi 3 Mhz CMOS version) in them. Source is several hundred pages of assembler code… Fun stuff.
#180401From: Black Belt SystemsJan 1, 1995 1:34 AM
The 6809 is the best 8-bit micro I've ever been exposed to. Got all those fancy addressing modes us asm programmers love (and high level types sniff at as "useless" because compiler writers write compilers too dimwitted to make good use of them. Enter RISC. 🙂
#180437From: Jay TruesdaleJan 1, 1995 5:06 PM
Are you aware that the Hitachi 6309 (CMOS 3 Mhz 6809) has a bunch of un-documented new and nifty features? Things like trapping illegal opcodes, more 16-bit registers, and a few more cool things that I can't remember at the moment. We tried them and they seem to work. The story we got is that Hitachi implemented the features and documented them in Japan but never released any info in the states due to some issue with Motorola.
#180475From: Black Belt SystemsJan 2, 1995 1:37 AM
Yep, I've got a long file that describes the "features". I do a lot of my 6809 work in emulation, on the Amiga, under Flex. Using the a4000, it's all very reasonable to go about. It's not even too bad on the 2500/030, but it's hard to go slower than you know you can, if you follow me. It's nice to be able to emulate any hardware you want for testing purposes, even to the point of graphing the output and using virtual sensors for input… that's how I tested the saw design.
#180507From: Jay TruesdaleJan 2, 1995 1:51 PM
Sounds neat. Our stuff is real-time multiple processor stuff so we have to debug in real time using the real hardware. We've got a few Applied Microsystems 6809 emulators around and we manage to keep them running without any help from Applied Microsystems who dropped support for them long ago. Now we're working on stuff that runs on PCs so we're using C/C++ under OS/2 for now. Some folks don't like the switch until I point out that they are more marketable.