#Cops, Courts, Crooks
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Let me do it. Mitigating circumstances are self defense… I know of no others.
Self defense being a term I use to describe the "global" self — family,
possesions (including land) friends. Leave me to it, and in a few years, there
won't _be_ any criminals. And plus, no jail problems, no jail $$$ (give it to
the schools) and lots of fertilizer. –Ben–
Ben–
Would a three pound brain tumor count as a mitigating circumstance? No self
defense involved there.
Nope. Not at all. There is no excuse for offensive actions. Only defensive, and
those are shaky at best. You can argue that a man with no tumor is just as sick
as one with a tumor — either case is a defective brain, in my judgement. And
in either case, society is far better off without them. –Ben–
amazing, Ben, just amazing.
Ben:
The cop in Dalles, Tx that shot the rape suspect while in the police
station (his own daughter was the victim) is a near perfect example of what I
would consider to be extenuating circumstances.
73,
bill
Bill-
Yes, emotional distress. and in NO way can that logically be called a
DEFENSIVE move, since one cannot ward off the past.
// Jim
Of course, in a few years, you would probably be the biggest mass murder in
history, topping even Hitler. Where would the average person be then as
regards there legal rights? If I get a speeding ticket, do you shoot me?
Rodney Somerstein 73167,2165
No more speeding tickets. And I have no qualms about killing rapists,
murderers, terrorists, or cockroaches… and I think the mentality that says
they're just sick puppies and should be coddled, made well and released is damn
near as sick and confused as the aformentioned criminals. And if I were to go
down as the worlds biggest murderer, society would still be better off. I'd
still take the job. Rodney, the way I see it, most things are not crimes at
all… some things are crimes in any society — that's a good test for moral
fit, if something doesn't fit most societies. Very few sanction those three
catagories. I like competition — I think it's healthy. I just think it has to
stop short of violence. We're smart enough for that…. and those of us that
are not, aren't doing very well under this system, either! –Ben–
I personally tend to agree with your categories of who should be eliminated, I
just wanted to play devil's advocate and point out the fact that things could
get out of hand. Especially since you obviously couldn't handle the job
without others' help.
Rodney Somerstein 73167,2165
Ben,
Hitler no doubt thought he was doing the world a big favor by
murdering three quarters of my family, not to mention the millions of
others. We don't need any more self-appointed saviors of humankind.
I don't believe there is such a thing as a benevolent dictator. As
Herbert said, Power Attracts the Corruptible. Go reread "God Emperor of
Dune." Even if your intentions are good now, you would turn into a
tyrant…and someone like me would be forced to kill you.
Dave
Oh, I've read God Emperor, and all the rest of Dune, too. recently, again,
even. I didn't miss that point. I wouldn't live a zillion years, though, so I'm
not anywhere near as irritating as The Worm. I _might_ institiute a tradition
or social path that lasts, though — since what I propose is really only fair.
I don't have to be the one to do it… I only volunteered. You said it yourself
— when an irritant becomes too much, you kill it. You would have killed
hitler, I'd kill the guy next door if he raped (1) one 0b00000001 Jew or Black.
What's the difference? iS hitler more of a criminal? I don't think so. He's
just an asshole who made it to power. He needed to be killed, and we did it.
–Ben–