CompuServe Thread

Saved by IP?

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#27804From: Margaret CopelandOct 1, 1991 11:08 AM
Ben, You sort of implied that ImageMaster/IP will have different savers. I'm in desparate need here of an awful TIF saver so I can take my greyscale stuff to the Macintosh. We use PageBaker for the Macintosh to layout the newsletter. Screens and such need to be applied over there and not mangled in a IFF/MacPaint black and white transfer. I just refuse to buy the Art Dept upgrade plus loader/saver for the TIF. Maybe you could "hint" at what savers you're going to have?
#27805From: SyndesisOct 1, 1991 11:12 AM
If you've got PhotoShop, it can load 32-color (or less) IFF images, and save them in many Mac-friendly formats. Other paint programs on the Mac might be able to load IFF, too. Have you tried that?
#27816From: Margaret CopelandOct 1, 1991 8:09 PM
My understanding is that Photoshop does not support the full 24 bit IFF images. I have a friend who is a graphic's designer at Broderbund. She uses Photoshop all day long and "back-ports" her images to VGA compatible resolutions. She has horror stories to tell about hungry Alpha channels gobbling all available Mac memory. Serves those Apple people right. Poor lady has to work with that stuff.
#27867From: SyndesisOct 2, 1991 11:51 AM
Yes, even PhotoShop 2.0 doesn't handle anything beyond 32 color IFF. It's a shame.
#27806From: Black Belt SystemsOct 1, 1991 1:26 PM
We'll have all kinds, and Users/developers can make their own, too. I think your needs will be taken care of with what's coming. I can't say much more than that right now. –Ben
#27817From: Margaret CopelandOct 1, 1991 8:10 PM
Got a flash that maybe Giffing it is the way to go. Once in Mac land it can be degiffed and made into a tif which is what PageFaker loves.
#27823From: Black Belt SystemsOct 1, 1991 8:58 PM
Ok, good. Keep in mind that GIF's are limited to 256 colors max; GIF stands for Graphics Inherently Fudged, you know. :^) If PageMaker wants 256 colors, you're all set. –Ben
#27864From: Margaret CopelandOct 2, 1991 11:22 AM
Unless I'm missing something, greyscale is 256 shades no? We aren't wealthy enough for a four color layout.
#27886From: Black Belt SystemsOct 2, 1991 8:49 PM
I've lost track… greyscale in regards to what? By the way; did you DRAW that iguana??? If so, I am most humbly impressed <bow> <bow> You know what? I whipped a 50% contrast on the entire image and really liked the effect – try that and tell me what you think, ok? –Ben
#27921From: Margaret CopelandOct 3, 1991 12:46 PM
Drew that Iguana alright. No digitizing while I did it. I do use lots of clip fills from digitized whatever, his skin is greyscale spots from a clip art book and other parts are from a close up of a starfish. Never would you suspect!!! Not bitching about the jaggies anymore – got the line work well blended in. I'm having a problem with the contrast and the brightness 'cause I haven't seen those chips yet??? God knows what it looks like without a blue wash over the whole thing. For the newsletter, 256 greyscale tiffs look much better xeroxed then starting with a dithered Macpaint port. So if Gif makes 256 greyscale or I can get their via Ham-E, then my art director can Giffer them on her MacII and then apply the screens. Can't afford linos or plates for each page so we do what we can.
#27935From: Black Belt SystemsOct 3, 1991 11:04 PM
Chips are on the way. The Iguana looks excellent, but a little washed out, I think. THe contrast fixed that right away. It's fabulous work. We're real proud of you! We show you to *everyone* (well, your work. :^) We should have you all running again within a day or so. –Ben
#27956From: Margaret CopelandOct 4, 1991 11:05 AM
Do whatever you want with it contrast wise. I have two 1084 monitors and they are quite different. One is definitely more brilliant than the other. I have friends with Sonys, Necs whatever and some of those monitors are really weird, green black backgrounds etc. Since I build up the image from the blends, going conservatively, its hard to get the contrast where you want it. Go to far with no undo and its hard to go back. More memory fixes some of that but sometimes if I'm working with lots of backgrounds I can't afford the undo button.
#27813From: ASDGOct 1, 1991 5:41 PM
If a solution as complete as ADPro is not within your budget, then I would point you towards several IFF to TIF converters of various limited degrees to be found on Fish Disks. pk
#27818From: Margaret CopelandOct 1, 1991 8:11 PM
Which fish?
#27825From: ASDGOct 1, 1991 9:16 PM
Ah, there are several that I know are on Fish disks…but I don't have detailed aquarium information at my finger tips. Certainly you could do what you need with PBM which is on fish disks as well as being resident in the Amiga forum's libraries. pk
#27865From: Margaret CopelandOct 2, 1991 11:23 AM
Remembered I have aquarium at home here on disk. Will check.