CompuServe Thread

Digitizers w/ 3DS or ANI

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#4355From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 12, 1991 12:34 PM
Are any of you using digitizers with 3D Studio and/or AniPro, or do most people stick with mice? I'm reviewing a bunch of digitizers, and several of their mouse and Summa emulations seems less than completely compatible with these two programs ("sticky" cursors, etc.). Any experiences good or bad with particular digitizers? Thanks, – Mark M.
#4360From: james hydeOct 12, 1991 5:19 PM
Mark, I'm using the Kurta for both 3DS and AA Pro but using the mouse mode, I really like the cordless option, but I currently have to run in mouse emulation mode till a 4.1 tablet standard is adopted, at least for 3DS. I think theres a standard for AA Pro but will require Kurta writing a driver. James
#4371From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 13, 1991 2:05 PM
James: Interesting, I've had "sticky cursor" problems with the Kurta using mouse emulation in 3DS. Also, in AA Pro and several other programs, I have trouble getting the cursor to all corners of the screen – it's like there's a "wall" keeping me from moving the cursor past a certain horizontal or vertical line. I'll have to play with the configuration options a bit more. By "4.1 tablet standard", I assume you mean an ADI driver interface for AA Pro and 3DS? You're right, AA Pro has the capability to talk to other devices via input device drivers (.IDR files), but I don't know that any digitizer makers have written any of these yet. I wonder what the advantages of an .IDR driver would be, and why Autodesk didn't stick with the already well-known ADI? – Mark M.
#4374From: james hydeOct 13, 1991 3:39 PM
Mark, I've had those problems when using K_MOUSE, I've found that the microsoft 7.0 mouse driver works perfectly. James
#4380From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 13, 1991 9:15 PM
James: Hmmm. I played around with the Kurta drivers a bit more today, and found that removing a bunch of TSRs from my AUTOEXEC and CONFIG files made the "stickiness" go away. As far as I can tell, the Lantastic network drivers were the culprit. The "cursor wall" was torn down when I used K_CONFIG to change the mouse mouse from Absolute to Relative. Seems to me that Relative really should be the default. – Mark M.
#4407From: james hydeOct 14, 1991 1:57 PM
Mark, I had problems due to some non-linear scaling from the kurta driver, use kurta driver problems, use MS driver works, so… I haven't ever even tried to fool with it anymore since it works so well…. James
#4386From: John Sergneri [ADESK]Oct 13, 1991 11:50 PM
Mark, We didn't use ADI in ANIPRO due to it's unique set of needs. There's a vast difference between that product and our other technologies and we needed a new input and display interface for it. John
#4394From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 14, 1991 10:03 AM
John & Gary: I see. Are there any .IDR digitizer drivers besides the sample Wacom SD42 yet? Is there anything special about how that driver/digitizer works? – Mark M.
#4388From: Yost GroupOct 14, 1991 12:55 AM
FYI, Jim Kent created the .IDR format to be optimized for real-time painting in a bitmap-oriented application. He felt that the existing ADI didn't offer the performance he wanted for the .IDR interface. – G
#4366From: Dave Byrnes [AEC TM]Oct 12, 1991 8:55 PM
Mark – can't say about 3DS, but I used the Summasketch driver in AA and am now using the one in Anipro, and they both work just fine. Hardware is a Summasketch Plus (1201). Dave
#4372From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 13, 1991 2:05 PM
Dave: Yes, the Summa seems to work fairly well with 3DS's and AniPro's Summa drivers <surprise!>. I did notice a slight bit of cursor stickiness, as well as the "float" I told you about via Email. I'm beginning to wonder whether there isn't a TSR conflict or compatibility problem in my system. Have to strip everything down and try these things again…. – Mark M.
#4381From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 13, 1991 9:15 PM
Dave (via myself): After some more testing today, I think the cursor "stickiness" in 3DS and AniPro is just the standard Phar Lap VSCAN stutter. Running CFIG386 would probably minimize it. The "float" didn't go away, even after I stripped AUTOEXEC & CONFIG down to a minimum. It's especially pronounced in AutoBASE, DL Pro, and DOs 5's DOSSHELL (in graphics mode). Must be related to the TABLET driver. I finally understand why people are bothering with Summa's ADI driver. At least with the model I'm testing (SummaSketch II Plus), the ADI driver and TABLET mouse driver seem to coexist pretty peacefully. I can shell out of AutoCAD, run NE or some other mouse-aware program, and then return to AutoCAD without running MMRST. OTOH, I couldn't get the ADI driver to work in AutoShade 2 – the cursor stayed frozen on the screen. – Mark M.
#4367From: JG-Sundog ProductionsOct 13, 1991 8:28 AM
Mark- I'm using a Wacom SD-422L cordless, which seems to work pretty well w/ both 3DS & Acad (WADI driver for Acad, Microsoft mouse emulator for 3DS). I like to use mouse speed #1 in 3DS to minimize wrist action. One thing about this device, tho, is that it interacts with the puck by using a low-frequency RF field from its surface (appr. 50KHz, I think). I'm ever so slightly concerned about this, in reference to all the brouhaha on "radiation in the workplace".. I heard a rumor once that someone working w/ one of these pads saw that their digital watch was getting screwy whenever they were using it.. hmmm. John Gummere =SP=
#4373From: Mark Middlebrook[AcadTM]Oct 13, 1991 2:05 PM
John: I haven't ever used a Wacom tablet. Other than its cordless-ness, is there anything special about it? What does it cost, roughly? – Mark M.
#4375From: james hydeOct 13, 1991 3:39 PM
John, I wouldn't worry too much about the tablet radiation, it's all the moniters I'm worried about. I've got three of them watching me. James