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#Encyclopedias?

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#14089From: Tim BoyerOct 27, 1991 1:55 PM
I must have phrased it badly. I, too, have the 10 year old paper edition, and the STW (grolier's) on CD. And as far as copying goes (somewhere further down this thread) – wouldn't the hard disks required to copy the CDROM be more expensive than the CDROM itself? I just don't buy that as a reason not to put the Brittanica on CD. And as far as prestige goes – the OED is out on CD, and you don't _get_ any more prestigous than that! There is 1 Reply.
#14099From: Roger PostOct 27, 1991 5:52 PM
Tim: I hate to admit my ignorance here but what is OED. I know when you tell me I will probably say I knew that but I sure can not think of anyting now. <G> I do not know why anyone would want to copy an encyclopedia to a hard drive as even if you did you still would not have the Boolian searching cabability. You are also correct it would be more expensive and slower as well. The thing about CDs is that they only cost about $5.00 to press once the master is made. However, because everyone knows that, people are not willing to pay $700.00 to 1200.00 for a encyclopedia on CD they feel that they are getting ripped off and they would be. Probably half the cost of the EB is the cost of binding it. Each volume has well over 1000 pages and each is well bound. It has to be to hold up. Then they have to print the thing and it is printed on very thin paper which must be a real mess to work with. There would be none of that with the CD and I have been told that you could put the EB on a CD three times and still have room for the every word index. It may be that they do not want to bring the price down to where everyone could afford it shich they could if they put it out on CD. However I do not know why they don't I was not the one who suggested that it would lower their prestege. R There are 2 Replies.
#14101From: Frank ZirpoloOct 27, 1991 7:47 PM
Roger, OED = Oxford English Dictionary. By the way, if you copy a CD to hard disk, searching will be faster, not slower. A high capacity hard disk has an average access time of about 16ms, whereas the fastest CD-ROM drives only have an average access time of 300ms. Frank There is 1 Reply.
#14123From: Frank/Lisa RichardsOct 28, 1991 12:53 PM
Frank, We've been having good luck with speed by just copying the index of the disk we published to a hard disk. The searches are done in the index, so you don't actually hit the CD until you want to look at one of the hits, and then the speed isn't as important. Is this possible with other CDs? Lisa Richards There is 1 Reply.
#14125From: Frank ZirpoloOct 28, 1991 1:00 PM
Lisa, It may be possible with other CD's but what is even more important is is it legal? Before you start copying CD-ROM products down to hard disk, you should check with the publisher that you are not violating the license agreement. Frank There is 1 Reply.
#14135From: Frank/Lisa RichardsOct 28, 1991 7:55 PM
Frank, Since we publish the disk, I don't worry about licensing problems <g> and recommend it to our customers so that they can get the most speed possible if they have the disk room. Keeps the customers happy … they tell two friends, who tell two friends, pretty soon my little state will be saturated with happy customers. Lisa There is 1 Reply.
#14148From: Tim BoyerOct 29, 1991 7:45 AM
I don't see how publishing an index would violate a copyright, anyway – I just can't see this maddened hoard of hackers downloading illicit indexes. Anyway, the index on the hard drive makes all _kinds_ of sense.
#14122From: Jerry IsdaleOct 28, 1991 11:34 AM
The Encyl. publishers are not so worried that you will copy the entire CD onto a hard disk, as you will copy entire articles, etc. SOme of the current CD versions let you save to disk/printer in limited amounts. THus you arent as likely to plagerize <sp> an article. and it is entirely possible to copy the data & search engine to disk. Thats how we build these beast to begin with. A decent 600MB scsi drive can be had for about $1000 if you know where to look. Next year there will be 1G scsi2 drives out for about $1500. thats enough to hold 20 FULL cd's. most titles barely use 1/2 the 500+Mb available. (grolier's is only about 300Mb, mostly for the images and sound!!) -jerry