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#Selling the Amiga

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#28536From: Brian BartlettOct 1, 1992 2:49 AM
Steven, and you demonstrate the other side of the coin. I do have to disagree with holding up WordIMPerfect as an example. I never could stand the program, even on an IBM. It looked like a kludge, ran like a kludge, felt like a kludge. You couldn't get Final Copy from me except by prying it from my cold dead fingers. It isn't perfect, but I don't need a manual to fly it. We do have some decent packages, but I have yet to see a fantastic piece of software out that a normal user could appreciate. I'm not a video type so all the neat stuff from GVP, Black Belt, etc. just passes me by. 24 bit video? That's nice, what use is it for me? Pretty much the same applies to all the niche applications for this machine. When I bought my first Amiga in '85, I only purchased it for the multi-tasking. Since then, that has been it's only saving grace since they are still trying to get it right in IBM- and Mac-land . It was only recently that I began to see clipboard support as a "standard". Why? This standard was in my V1.1 RKM's. Then we had the rush to ARexx, but you have to be, pretty much, a programmer to operate it. I sure as heck wouldn't inflict it on my mother. She can code Fortran, but ARexx is downright weird, at times. What I'm trying to say here, is I see quite a few good ideas that we have established for this machine and they seem to dangle out there for years. When we do implement them as standards, you need a Sc.D. to operate them, or get conflicting information. Furthermore, the good applications we do have, with few exceptions either aren't robust enough to draw anyone to this machine, are limited to a niche, or quality control sucks rocks. I am not a cheap Amiga user. I put a lot of money in the pockets of shareware and commercial developers, but I frequently ask myself: Why? What am I getting? Even when I pay $429 for a package, it has bugs. Something is wrong with this picture. Brian <continued>
#28547From: Malcolm O'BrienOct 1, 1992 12:41 PM
Brian, I AM a cheap Amiga user. 🙂 I've purchased very little; Whap!, AP, CrossDOS, Enhancer and 2.0. The rest of the stuff I have (not much) was given to me by the author or publisher. My interest in the Amiga was the multitasking too; and the availability of more resources (RAM & HD) than I could get with my C128. There was also a price advantage over other 16-bit machines. I've had my A500/A590 for a few years now and haven't even paid for it yet! If I had to make the jump from C128 today, I'd probably have to get a Windows box (and grumble about it every time I used it). That or a low-end Mac. I might even just go with getting more RAM & HD for the 128! Don't think you don't get bugs in expensive packages on the other platforms. The first thing that comes to mind for me is Ventura Publisher. UGH! 😛 Malcolm
#28561From: Steven D. KapplinOct 1, 1992 5:07 PM
Brian, It would appear that we have virtually the same viewpoint on this question. You haven't said a thing I would disagree with other than that the recent incarnations of WordPerf on the Mac and PC are much better than those old 4.x versions which were horrendous to use. The Windows versions, like the Mac versions, are much nicer, although, personally, I prefer MS Word. I, too, am not a cheap user. I, too, like FinalCopy, and I don't have much use for all the graphic software because, like you, I don't have much need for it. I, however, love ARexx which I use extensively and find to be as easy to learn and use as I did Basic. In general, I think we're on the same wavelength, and I'm glad to see I'm not all alone on most of my thoughts on this controversial topic!! So, then, what can be done?
#28565From: Wayne SteeleOct 1, 1992 6:35 PM
Brian: I never liked WordPerfect either. Not on MS-DOS, not on the Mac, and not on the Amiga. In fact, not even on Windows! I'd say that "kludge" is an accurate description of each. I'm not into video either. I've always liked the Amiga for its interesting custom hardware and superior OS. I just wish more software was written to take advantage of these features. I also don't consider myself a "cheap" Amiga user. I don't have the money to buy a lot, but I'm willing to pay for what I need. I'm also willing to pay for quality. I don't pirate software (honestly), and I register any shareware that I use on a regular basis. As for buggy software, I think you'll find plenty of it no matter how expensive it is or what platform it runs on. Wayne Steele Saving $ with AutoPilot