CompuServe Thread

#Cheaper Net?'

24 messages in this thread
#71912From: Vic WagnerSep 30, 1992 3:26 PM
John, Yes, I'd LOVE to see an electronic publication of the local "TV Guide". I'd even settle for an electronic version of the one which shows up in the Sunday paper. Hmmmmm, with that an my AIR link, I could whomp up something even easier than VCR+.
#71955From: SyndesisSep 30, 1992 8:33 PM
Yes, a combo of VCR+, Airlink, and a cable modem would be a potent combo, no? I think you could make the hardware and sell it, like the cable modem, at about $120. But you'd really need a computer of some kind to drive it… say a CDTV. Now why didn't they put an IR-out on that thing? Make a CD-ROM with a movie database on it to supplement the daily listings… I can imagine people who'd pay $800 for that. But a plain CDTV – no way.
#72031From: Vic WagnerOct 1, 1992 2:02 PM
Hmmmm, IR-out on the CDTV….now THAT's an interesting ides
#72157From: SyndesisOct 2, 1992 4:52 PM
Gets you thinking, doesn't it? How hard would it be to make it a universal, trainable remote? Tap button "A" three times quickly, it "mutes" every device in the room. Memorize the five channels you're skipping between at the moment, and truly skim instead of video surfing. Or a timer/alarm to help remember which show you wanted to watch later on. Or VCR-Plus, as you said. Or a universal "how to program your VCR" program, with a unified interface for anything in the room. I'm sure we've not even scraped the surface of the potential…
#72308From: Vic WagnerOct 3, 1992 6:36 PM
John, Right, we haven't even scraped the surface, but for a 10 minute (participation, not wall clock time) brainstorm session, we're not doing badly. How about a warning that your favo(u)rite show ("xxx", or "ST:TNG") is airing at a NEW time this week notice which shows up automagically.
#72392From: SyndesisOct 4, 1992 1:36 PM
Or for the real fanatics, a computer-assisted database of which episodes you've seen – and a warning when one you haven't is coming up…
#72435From: Vic WagnerOct 4, 1992 8:24 PM
_NOW_ you're really thinkin'!!
#72487From: SyndesisOct 5, 1992 10:01 AM
It makes me wonder why some people have put forward a wire-based consumer electronics bus – when most of it could be done by IR.
#72508From: Vic WagnerOct 5, 1992 3:13 PM
John, Welllllllllllll, IR works for a single room pretty well, but it's difficult to get it reliably throughout a house. I always thought the carrier on top of the electrical was a neat method myself.
#72678From: Richard BeausangOct 7, 1992 12:30 AM
Vic, Check out the IR extenders in the Damark catalog. They work rather well for under $50. It converts IR to radio and then retransmits as IR in a remote location. Great fun with an airlink. -Richard
#72808From: Shawn BrixeyOct 7, 1992 11:00 PM
John, PLC (Power Line Carrier) technology is great for most applications, but try running a carrier through a surge suppressor… Becomes a little difficult then. Also sometimes if you and the house next door are close and using PLC devices, they will interfere with each other… Also IR technology has come quite away in the last few years. For about $150 you can have 2-way infrared control in 4 rooms of your house… –Shawn
#72793From: Brian CowanOct 7, 1992 10:55 PM
The "CEBus" (Consumer Electronics Bus) interface has _both_ a wire and an IR standard, with IR <–> wire translation built into the interface. Too bad very few people use this system…… Articles on the CEBus can be found in back issued of Circuit Cellar ink….. // Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot….. \X/ AMIGA Hopefully sparing the wallet some bruising…:^)
#72807From: Shawn BrixeyOct 7, 1992 11:00 PM
There are alot of reasons for a wire based CEB, but this probably isn't the place to talk about it… My entire house and business is ran by my amiga, and 98% of it is hardwired… –Shawn
#72863From: SyndesisOct 8, 1992 1:04 PM
I'd love to hear how your Amiga controls your house!
#73343From: Shawn BrixeyOct 13, 1992 12:29 AM
John, Well you probably will pretty soon as my HC1 Home Control system for the amiga is not to far off the horizon… Been working on it in my spare time for 3 years now… –Shawn
#72868From: Vic WagnerOct 8, 1992 1:31 PM
Why _isn't_ this the place to talk about it? I'm interested.
#73344From: Shawn BrixeyOct 13, 1992 12:29 AM
Sorry Vic, just got back from an electronics convention in Illinois, what were we talking about??? –Shawn
#72907From: Danny K. BuckleyOct 8, 1992 8:50 PM
Shawn, This is as good a place as any and I'd really be interested in your house/business net. Autopiloting/Dunedin, Fl
#73345From: Shawn BrixeyOct 13, 1992 12:29 AM
Ok guys, HC1 is a home control product for the amiga that I have been developing on a spare time basis for my own use, mainly because I have worked with/used/installed many IBM based systems and thought that they were all much too hard to use/install. My system rather than using a text based programming language, like the other guys, uses an icon programming enviroment similar to the amiga vision concept, PLUS with the amiga controlling the place you can still use the amiga as a computer, unlike 99% of the IBM based systems. My system uses and external control bus for hardwired control of anything, and I have pretty well modified all of my existing Audio/Video equipment to work ok with this type of setup. The system can control X-10 devices via the Power Line Carrier controller built in and can also control Infrared devices via it's 2-way infrared emitter/receiver combo. Most of my equipment is hardwired into an A/D converter setup, so my amiga knows the inside and outside weather condidtions and makes intelligent decisions based on that… I am currently trying to integrate LON networking and the GVP phone pak VFX into the system, but have yet to recieve either products, so I guess that will be a little longer… –Shawn
#72119From: Leslie T. BartiromoOct 2, 1992 6:28 AM
Actually, I'm suprised there is no electronic TV Guide. I know there is a service some cable companies provide that give you programming a few hours in advance but a REAL guide shouldn't be hard to do.
#72141From: Vic WagnerOct 2, 1992 3:36 PM
I concur, and I'd MUCH rather search with my computer than wade through the 30+ pages each week.
#72463From: Shawn BrixeyOct 5, 1992 12:02 AM
There are actually quite a few TV Guides that are ELECTRONIC… Stop in to your local satellite system dealer and ask to see their Uniden 4800 Super satellite receiver system! It's so smart it even turns your VCR on and off and sends the record command when it's time for your show! Also Zenith purchased a company a few years ago that had created an online TV Guide type of service and the technology should be incorporated into Zenith TV Sets in 1993, with boxes to hook to any TV shortly thereafter… BUT for the MOST impressive electronic TV GUIDE demonstration, there is no need to look any further than the FROX Audio/Video system, where EVERYTHING including your VCR and 100 Disk CD changer is all controlled through your TV set…
#72512From: Vic WagnerOct 5, 1992 3:13 PM
100 disk CD changer (tho we'd need a 250 changer here in the office)???? price please!!
#72805From: Shawn BrixeyOct 7, 1992 11:00 PM
Ok Vic, I'll call FROX tommarow and get you a price on that puppy… –Shawn