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#USGS CD-ROM

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#28292From: Ollie AchesonOct 9, 1992 7:42 PM
Just got the US Geologic Survey's catalog of digital maps. Several of these are on cd-roms, but they mention an ISO spec (ISO-9600, I think — left the darned brochure at work). What does this mean? Can I use my DAK cd-rom player? The maps sound incredible, so I'm hoping I can use them.
#28301From: Mike HobartOct 9, 1992 11:27 PM
You are referring to ISO-9660, a standard version of the original High Sierra format. It is used to provide compatibility across platforms -MSDOS, MAC, UNIX, VMS, AMIGA, etc. Virtually all CD-ROM driver software supports it. The standard addresses things like directory structure, file name lengths (kept down to 8 chars and 3 char extension due to MS-DOS limits), etc. Where did you get the catalog (address/phone/fax #)?
#28309From: Ollie AchesonOct 10, 1992 9:09 AM
Thanks for the info. You can get all sorts of catalogs via the USGS Earth Science Information Center, 1-800-USA-MAPS. Their Washington, DC, address is 1849 C Street NW.
#28359From: Mike HobartOct 11, 1992 12:04 AM
Thanks, somehow I had missed some of that – probably a case of too close to the trees to see the forest. I get their monthly 'New Publications of the U.S. Geological Survey'. The place I work is the Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University in Palisades, NY. By the way, the observatory is having an open house on Saturday, Oct. 17. Mike
#28382From: Ollie AchesonOct 11, 1992 11:11 AM
Mike – or too close to the rocks to see the …. <g>. The open house next week sounds interesting. I live in Morristown, NJ, so its relatively close. Can you send me more details, including when and exactly where it is (someplace on the Palisades isn't going to hack it). Ollie
#28386From: Charles GalloOct 11, 1992 11:23 AM
Mike, I'll see if I can make it to the open house. I hear your place is neat. Charlie In NYC
#28444From: FRED THOMASOct 12, 1992 7:27 AM
Mike; Where can the publication you mentioned frm the USGS be ordered?
#28324From: Jerry IsdaleOct 10, 1992 3:49 PM
as Mike said the disks are probably ISO-9660 and should be readable in your Dak player. However, you will need special software to deal with the USGS map data. They have an odd format as i recall. Powerful, but not immeadiately useful. The folks at Virtual Reality Labratories make a product called VistaPro and they can convert USGS data files to their VP format for you (for a fee of course). Vista Pro allows you to do 3D flythroughs of the landscape. VRL also has flybys of Mars available <g>.
#28330From: Ollie AchesonOct 10, 1992 7:54 PM
The catalog talks about some level of software that comes with the disks, so I would hope they are at least minimally useable without addition. OTOH, doing fly-bys sounds interesting…. (wonder if esteemed spouse is interested in an early Christmas gift?). Who is VRL? Their software affordable by mere mortals, or do I need NASA's budget? Thanks for the comments.
#28360From: Mike HobartOct 11, 1992 12:09 AM
VistaPRO is available on Amigas and on MS-DOS systems (maybe more). On the Amiga they have two versions with differing features and costs. The less expensive version is about $60 typical retail. There are also some companies which reformat the USGS data and re-offer it. This would probably be available through a company in the Denver area called RockWorks (don't have address/phone # at home – sorry). They are a dealer in software for geology and earth sciences.
#28365From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIOct 11, 1992 1:09 AM
We have retired Vista on the Amiga and only have VistaPro now. VistaPro Amiga lists for $99.95 and typically is seen mailorder at around $65 or so. I have a 9 track tape drive available and will convert USGS tapes to disk for a reasonable fee (basically covers my time spent doing it).
#28364From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIOct 11, 1992 1:09 AM
We try to keep our software affordable by mere mortals. <grin> VistaPro on the PC lists at $129.95, and can be found at dealers and mailorder in the $80-$90 range. We have a program called MCNV.EXE that will read most USGS DEM's, and convert them to VistaPro format, and it can be found in our Library over in the GraphVend forum (GO VRLI).
#28383From: Ollie AchesonOct 11, 1992 11:12 AM
Clint – Thanks for the note. Seems like fly-bys are cheap these days <g>. Do you have a catalog? If so, could you send to meat: 14 Normandy Pkwy. Morristown, NJ 07960. For me, its more fascination, but I have a daughter majoring in geography at George Washington Univ. who could probably really use your products. I'll look in on GraphVend. Ollie
#28461From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIOct 12, 1992 2:57 PM
Ollie: I think I uploaded a list of the DEM's available from VRLI to the VRLI Lib section in GraphVend. I'm traveling this week, and don't have that stuff with me, but I'll send a catalog out as soon as I'm back next Monday. Clint <VRLI>
#28333From: Albert DayesOct 10, 1992 9:10 PM
What is the phone number for Virtual Reality Lab?
#28366From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIOct 11, 1992 1:09 AM
Albert: VRLI – (805) 781-2250. For data conversion, VRLI Data Services – (805) 925-7732. Clint <VRLI>
#28373From: Albert DayesOct 11, 1992 2:36 AM
Thanks for the update.
#28332From: Albert DayesOct 10, 1992 9:09 PM
It must be ISO-9660 which is the only standard currently available on CD-ROMs so with a PC you can read it just fine.
#28507From: SyndesisOct 13, 1992 7:44 AM
Which DEMs are on the new CD-ROMs sold by the USGS?
#28563From: Ollie AchesonOct 14, 1992 5:09 PM
John – I got a 20 page packet from a fairly random inquiry to USGS's phone (800-USA-MAPS), which I can't/won't reproduce here. I get the impression there is a fairly huge number of different things available. Some of the cd-roms were: – 1:2,000,000 DLG sectionals of all 50 states – $32. – 1:1,000,000 vector basemap of the world – 4-cd-rom's $200 The packet I got indicates DEM's are still on tape. Ollie
#28704From: SyndesisOct 16, 1992 6:20 PM
Sounds like fun. Do you know of any DLG-reading programs out there?