#Wordworth vs FinalWriter
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I have uploaded WWprev.LHA, a new version of our Wordworth 3.1 Preview Package.
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Title : Wordworth 3.1 Preview Package
Keywords: WORDWORTH FINAL WRITER WORD PROCESSOR COMPARE PREVIEW
Wordworth 3.1 preview. Contains screenshots, ordering information, and a
detailed feature list and comparison vs Final Writer release 3. Permission
is given to redistribute this archive as long as it is kept intact.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
Michael, I downloaded the file and was able to read the compare text file after
unzipping, but couldn't open the others even though there are icons for them.
My guess is I did something wrong. Any idea?
jeff Kisseloff/70253,1344
The other files in the archive are IFF ILBM pictures. You must display them
with a utility or load them into a paint program.
NOTE: someone found another mistake in the comparison yesterday. The comparison
indicates that Final Writer can import ASCII only. This is wrong. It can import
ASCII, WordPerfect 4.1 (but not 5.1 like Wordworth), ProWrite and PenPal. The
next version of the comparison will reflect this, and we are changing the
printed version of the comparison today. Sorry for the mistake.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
Mike,
Thanks, I took a look at them with Diskmaster. I'm impressed. I have been
a Wordperfect user for I don't know how many years now. I've written a few
books with it and I still like the program, but without any suport I guess
I feel like being on a ship out on the ocean without a lifeboat. I bought
FInalwriter last year, but I was horrified at the regular on screen type.
It was just unreadable to me, so I went back to Wordperfect. I can't quite
tell from your preview what a typical screen of type looks like on
Wordworth. Is there anything more to show. Is the type next to the tiger
graphic representative of the screen?
Jeff
The type in that screenshot is the default font in Wordworth. However, if you
need really legible on-screen type, you can use standard AmigaDOS bitmapped
fonts in Wordworth just like you did in WordPerfect.
Most people will find the on-screen legibility of the two programs (WW and FW)
very similar, except for WW's extra capability to use AmigaDOS fonts.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
You're selling WW short Mike. It's onscreen legibility is often better than
FiW's, at least on my system, although it is admittedly running at atypically
high resolutions.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
Thanks for replying. It will mean more to others coming from you rather than
from us.
Cheers,
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
Paul,
what about at typical resolutions. Do you still find it is an
improvement?
jeff
I can't answer that, Jeff. I spent so much time getting WW set up right with
my Retina – which is, so far as I can tell, the fault of the Retina software,
not of WW – that I don't want to bump it down and possibly mess things up.
However, WW at 1120×832 is equal to or better than, depending on the font, FiW
at 1152×900. Courier is so much better it's a joke – it's like reading it on a
page. For really good onscreen readability in either program, but somewhat
better in WW, use the font ShannonBook that comes with WW. The basic idea with
either program, or I guess any wp, is to find a simple, clean, generally
sans-serif font to use for typing in text. The more complicated the font, the
more serifs it has, and variable line thicknesses and the like, the harder it
is to make a clean representation on screen.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
Thanks,
Wordworth may be "worth" a try. I liked the way the preview looked. I
guess the only sticking points are that I do just fine with Wordperfect,
and I'm not sure if I want to sink any more money into my Amiga. After
eight years, I may be headed toward Macworld.
jeff
Yah, I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't happy spending the money on
WW either, but it's a good program, and hopefully with v4 it'll be a lot more
useful for my more specialized needs. But unfortunately, I can't see leaving
the Amiga in the near future. Thinker isn't anywhere else, so far as I know,
and I have my life in Thinker. :-~
Still, if I go anywhere, I bet it'll be to a Mac rather than some MicroSloth
slug. That is, if Apple still exists then.
Paul (aka Mr. Zombie)
Just an irritating note:
> Still, if I go anywhere, I bet it'll be to a Mac rather than some
> MicroSloth slug. That is, if Apple still exists then.
My #2 choice also, but I expect to pay more for the same things I have now
on Ami. Have you heard the rumors about Oracle maybe wanting to do an
unfriendly takeover of Apple? The world is full of uncertainty.
Tom
alternate: jonest@hfsi.com
I never met a man I didn't like…Will Rogers
Actually, your error is as old as FinalCopy II, not FinalWriter, since I've
been able to import all of those formats since then. It is probably older than
that, but I can't verify it since I can't find my FC I disks. The sorry part
is that you continue to misrepresent the Softwoood product, and for that
reason, I will never buy a Soft-Logik product. If you can't portray your
competitor accurately, how can I trust you to portray your own product
accurately, hmmm?
The first lesson of economics is scarcity. The first lesson of politics is to
disregard the first lesson of economics.
I think you're being a little unfair. We provide detailed feature comparisons
because potential customers want to know exactly what they are getting. Most
companies won't do this.
A couple of years ago, I received a copy of Quark's feature comparison vs
PageMaker and Ventura. I was impressed, not because Quark came out ahead, but
because they were very fair in their feature comparison. The comparison
accurately showed in what regards XPress was better than PageMaker, and in what
regards those programs were better than XPress. I believed their comparison
more because they were honest enough not to slant the comparison in their
favor.
We try to do the same in our feature comparisons. (In fact, our first
PageStream3 vs ProPage vs PageMaker vs XPress comparison was based directly on
Quark's.) Take a look at our Wordworth vs Final Writer comparison. It shows
that Final Writer is better in several areas (Undo, ARexx, style tags, master
pages, bibliography, sections). We could easily have omitted a few of these
from the list of features that were compared so that the remaining comparison
would be more in our favor. But we didn't because we think our products can
stand for themselves.
It is possible to make errors in a feature comparison, and we always have our
comparison proofed by users of competing programs. (For this comparison
volunteers on GEnie proofed it for a week before it was posted.) But even power
users of programs can miss things too.
So when someone found a mistake on our comparison and we posted a correction
here, you criticized us for not portraying our competitor accurately and said
you'd never buy our products as a result. It seems to me that we have been very
fair, and have always corrected our comparisons when errors have been found.
Don't slam us for making a mistake if we own up to it and correct it. Someone
found a few mistakes in our PageStream3 vs ProPage 4.1 comparison, and that was
a year after Gold Disk had proofed it itself! (While we competed head to head
with Gold Disk, we were on friendly terms with them and would send our feature
comparisons to them to proof.)
Michael @ Soft-Logik Publishing
Perhaps I am being a bit unfair, but you have missed a feature that dates back
to Final Copy, not just to Final Writer. Are you telling me that not only one
group has missed the import feature but every group in between as well? I
think you need a new group of feature checkers. Especially ones that are
willing to RTFM.
"The first lesson of economics is scarcity…. The first lesson of politics
is to disregard the first lesson of economics." (T. Sowell)