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#HP550c GREEN Machine!

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#118267From: Paul TylerOct 16, 1993 9:39 AM
Oh no, not again, I wish I never bought this *?!@%&" printer, Can anyone please tell a weary workbench 3 user why his HP550c prints all text in black (as it should) but when printing a picture, black becomes bile green!!!. Its just a little frustrating, I'm using the standard 550c driver which comes with O.S. 3, and it works fine, all apart from the slime trick! Thankyou for reading this… HELP! (please!) *IcE*
#118405From: Andy FinkelOct 16, 1993 11:43 PM
As I understand it, HP doesn't recommend using the black ink at the same time as the colored ink. On a color picture, the printer driver is forced to 'make' a black using mixtures of YMC. Which is why the black isn't as black. One of the 3rd party 550C drivers may do a better job of making blacks than the standard 3.0 driver; it might be worth your while checking that out. andy
#119121From: Greg HalperOct 20, 1993 9:32 PM
>As I understand it, HP doesn't recommend using the black ink at the same >time as the colored ink. … Andy, I find that to be pretty interesting that HP would have a recommendation like that, and yet include a calibration routine on their Macintosh driver to align the black and color cartridges. (I use one at work.) I'm not disputing what you're saying, but it seems at odds with what HP has produced for another platform. regards, greg
#119199From: Andy FinkelOct 21, 1993 10:31 AM
Interesting. All I can go on is the tech docs produced by HP. Maybe HP didn't do the Mac driver; maybe it was done by someone who decided that mixing the inks is OK if you're careful to not let the colored dots touch the black dots.
#119747From: Wolf FaustOct 25, 1993 2:21 PM
The are more reasons for not printing in 4 colors on the DJ 550C. The bleeding of color inks with the black ink isn't the only problem and can be nearly cured when using the depletion and shingling function as recommend in the HP docs. A more serious problem with low resolution 4 color printers are disturbing black color dots surrounded by color dots. For instance, the black dots make a skin surface look rough. Try a picture of a face. Printing with 4 colors result in very visible black dots in the skin area. The problem becomes even more visible when using error diffusion dithers like Floyd Steinberg in areas with a saturation >50%. Another thing most people don't think about: speed. Depending on the graphic/dither you are printing, 3 or 4 color printing method can differ a lot when it comes to printing speed. Often 3 colors are much faster. — Wolf Faust, Am Dorfgarten 10, 60435 Frankfurt, Germany —
#119750From: Jochen HaeberleOct 25, 1993 3:45 PM
But the problem that stays is that you can create much more shades of color using 4 colors (that's why people have invented the CMYK separation instead of CMY). The Colors Cyan Magenta and Yellow can not be produced as clean as neccesarry. So you use the fourth color to recompensate for that. There are very intelligent color removal algorithms for the problems you mentioned. The problems of roughening and so on is not really one of the low resolution printers, but it is merely more visible. … over the ocean Jochen, Stuttgart, Germany with AutoPilot
#119916From: Wolf FaustOct 27, 1993 6:37 PM
the problem can't be solved by color removel. Sure, you can print more colors with 4 colors (not much more… but there are other aspects that require 4 colors). But this doesn't mean it's better. Please read my message again and please… we're talking about ink jets in practice… not a 2560dpi printer (we can start a new subject on this if you wish).