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#Opal mine, Mojave

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#148773From: Bill Webb /CAOct 9, 1994 9:42 PM
Been there, Doug. The opals occur as amygdules in a coarse lava, filling only an occasional cavity. The mines Russ is referring to were worked in the '30's (when I went there!!!) by a grizzled prospector named Herman, who had a "rock shop" in Last Chance Canyon. I just checked for fluorescence, and can report "slight", greenish in SW. There is something else, though, with bright Willemite green lining some of the cavities. I would think this location worth a little further investigation. I have a couple of specimens about 1 cm long, but fractured. Herman had blasted the location and a lot of the material was ruined. However, at the time the 'mine' was barely worked, no adits. So perhaps with some searching at lower levels some good stuff might turn up. No question that it's pretty. A clear, fire opal. Herman showed me a piece of matrix with an opal about 2.5 cm which made such an impression on me that I can see it to this day. Bill
#148781From: Doug MitchellOct 9, 1994 10:31 PM
Hi, Bill– Thanks for the info! I wonder if that "willemite green lining" is another generation of opal (hyalite, perhaps) or chalcedony? The opal fluorescence says uranium traces are present, which could cause a great many minerals to show that fluorescence, but opal and chalcedony are at the top of my guess list. I'll be in Lancaster a few days next week. While I will likely not have the free time, I'll have to give some thought to seeking out that mine. I am glad to hear you have your UV working – how long did that take to get fixed, and who did it? UVP? –Doug
#148898From: Bill Webb /CAOct 10, 1994 10:44 PM
I have 2 uv lamps, one big SW (as you brought here), and the portable, which was not fixed, but UV products sent me a new one, which is working fine. It has the LW and SW, but so far I haven't had much chance to get out of here and do some prospecting. My years of neglecting my photography practice has caught up with me, and I have now a monumental amount of lab work that I have to get out. Not that that's bad.. I am actually selling prints, and have a couple of dedicated collectors, but I don't always have a print available when they order something. Nevertheless, I've marked my calendar for a trip this month, and so who can tell? BTW will be going to Georgia for a few days, soon. Visiting around Savannah where there is probably not much but sand.. the good areas are northwest in the mountains, near as I can tell. I just might manage… Bill
#149123From: Doug MitchellOct 12, 1994 11:11 PM
Hi, Bill– I see Savannah is at the wrong end of GA. I see pyromorphite from Graves Mt., hyalite opal from Stone Mt. (just E of Atlanta), and quartz (chalcedony?) from Thomaston (~50 mi W of Macon) as the most promising Georgian fluorescents in my database of locales. Happy hunting if you can manage any! –Doug
#148912From: Russ MadsenOct 11, 1994 12:38 AM
Bill… You were out there in the 30's? Fascinating! I'd love to see a report on your impressions of how it's "changed" since then if you make it out to take a look around. Last time we were out Richard had some finished stones he's been working that are coffee-brown to red jelly with a range of play of color from pinfire to good size "flakes". I know what you mean about the impression one of these stones can make. One of Richard's finest stones is the Mojave Flame, a gorgeous opal with perfectly hexagonal flake fire throughout. Each flake is about 1/8" across I'd guess. They're all uniform in size and appear to be floating like snowflakes in a bottle. I get goose bumps trying to describe it! btw, I'm the secretary of the American Opal Society now and edit the club's monthly newsletter. I'd appreciate permission to write a story or perhaps DL and print whatever you might like to say here about the canyon as an article. I think the AOS members would be very interested. -Russ
#149016From: Bill Webb /CAOct 11, 1994 10:38 PM
You flatter me, Russ. Now I have to go into my notes and photographs taken around 1939, with a year or so on either side. I know I do have a photo of old Herman's place, rather good considering I was just discovering photography in those days. And one in Last Chance Canyon that has actually entered my 'canon', made in 1939. But I seriously doubt I photographed the more or less nothing scenery around the opal digs. Will see. Meanwhile, I remember accessing the area from Last Chance Canyon rather than from the highway, and it was a bit of a walk. Herman took a friend and me out there to his claim one afternoon and we dug around awhile, and then I revisited the spot at least once more. The opals are indeed beautiful. I never found anything more than about 1 cm, but its a nice gem. Herman was a real old desert rat, drunk whenever he could afford to be, and around his 'shop' he had a lot of good petrified wood, agates, and so on. Oh yes, I got some beautiful moss agate out there, white transluscent background with green (moss colored!) moss. And something I got to calling 'fossil head cheese', which was a sort of loose conglomerate of reddish rhyolite held together with blue agate.. very nice stuff. And, of course, lots of petrified wood, some very choice… palm mostly. I still have all this stuff..been hauling it around for 55 (sic!) years. So you have now prompted me to try to visit there again. I am planning some kind of desert trip within a few days or weeks. Will have to include the opal location. Meanwhile, I'll make a print of Herman's shop for you, if you'd like.. e-mail your address. Bill
#149181From: Russ MadsenOct 13, 1994 6:36 PM
Bill… I'll email my address with my next pass. And Thank you with a capital "T"! What I've done in the past with the Opal Society Newsletter to get graphics (such as a photo of Herman's place) into .PCX format has been to fax them home from my wife's office 'cause I don't have a scanner here. I can touch them up and so forth once they're on the harddrive. Not wonderful but it works moderately well. This is certainly the time of year to go out to the canyon…last weekend the high temp was only about 80'F (compared to 92' here in Long Beach, sheesh!). btw, you may be interested in attending the Opal Society annual Opal Show November 5th and 6th at the Quality Inn next to the Anaheim Convention Center (southwest corner of Katella Ave. and Harbor Blvd). Show runs from 10AM to 6 on Saturday and 10AM to 5 on Sunday. My schedule has me stuck with at best a few hours Sunday afternoon that weekend. 8-( -Russ