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#QBTools

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#167559From: Wayne ColeOct 12, 1994 3:29 PM
Dave, QBTools has never suffered the problems that QB did. QB had crashing problems at rev 5.4 and 6.0 under 2.04 and 2.1. Revs 5.3 and 6.0.1 worked fine with the ADos 2.x. However, 6.0.1 did not handle DAT tapes written in 5.x very well. QBTools never had any problems with any revs of ADos that I am aware of. In fact, I crashed my 3.1 system (messing with some coding experiments) and corrupted my one of the two HDs on it. I used QBTools to recover, no problem. I've also used it under 3.1 for file undeletes with no problem either. So I think if you still have your QBTools its OK to use. In fact, since I had the initial crashing problme, I've used QB a couple of times on 3.1 from floppy and it seems to work fine that way. I haven't had the nerve to put it back on the HD yet, but I'd bet some combination of Asynch and selection of memeory to use for the buffers would provide a work-around. To tell the truth, at nearly $100 for the current import, and with IDI playing it cool and NH gone, I decided the safest path is to gradually convert over to HDBackup. At least there ar no questions about its compatibility, and its "free" if you already bought the 3.1 upgrade (even if it is an ugly dog). wmc – via Autopilot!
#167615From: Dave ArreOct 13, 1994 12:16 AM
Wayne: I don't have QBTools. I only bought QB alone…. Now that I paid $94 for Diavolo, I think I'll "HAVE" to use it <g> … but it is better than QB, or Ami_back, overall. I still have Ami-Back Tools, and it still sits in my TOOLS directory. As for HDBackup, I thought it was wracked with problems and was so hated by users that it was banished from the HD entirely! That was the reason I bought QB to begin with — I had so many warnings about HDBackup failing on restore, I don't think I ever used it (maybe once). — Dave
#167667From: Wayne ColeOct 13, 1994 4:13 AM
Hmmm, I hadn't heard the HD Backup tales. The one with 3.1 seemed to work for me when I backed up 3 partitions from two drives and then restored after re-fromatting the disks. Not an extensive test but… My dislike for it is the lack of features and information about what is going on. You are also required to keep the directories elsewhere as they are not kept as part of the backup itself (QB spoiled me). But, at least that one day it worked and I did already pay for it… (Sorry – no way am I paying ~$100 for a backup program when I was paying $60 for backup plus tools type programs just year ago…) wmc – via Autopilot!
#167779From: Dave ArreOct 14, 1994 1:51 AM
Wayne: These tales of HDBackup problems surfaced with OS 2.04. It is possible that the bugs were worked out in the interim. I know that HDToolBox looks MUCH diffferent from the version I had with 2.04. Yeah, $94 is a HIGH price to pay, but then again, I tend to be foolish at times, and I rarely splurge on my computer…. even 3.1 was a streach to convince myself to get at $150, but it seems to be much smoother than 2.04. Now that I've fed my computer, I can leave it alone for another couple of years! <g> — Dave
#167629From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaOct 13, 1994 12:53 AM
I crashed MY 3.1 system, messing up one of my partitions, restoring from QB 6.0 B-) I wasn't even doing any creative coding 🙁 DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#167668From: Wayne ColeOct 13, 1994 4:13 AM
Did you get the 6.0.1 patch and try it from floppy? 6.0 didn't even like my 2.0 machine… kept locking up just after the corporate brag window came up. wmc – via Autopilot!
#167877From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaOct 14, 1994 11:41 PM
Never even saw the patch, otherwise I would've tried it. A pity 🙁 DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#168097From: Jim SakladOct 16, 1994 8:00 PM
Wayne – > Did you get the 6.0.1 patch and try it from floppy? Wherefrom can one get the 6.0.1 patch? jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#168131From: Wayne ColeOct 17, 1994 2:31 AM
Well, I thik it was in their lib before it was closed. (I might be confused with the QBTools 2.0 to 2.0.1, though, as I just checked my last upgrade disk from NH and it was version 6.0.1 of QB). wmc – via Autopilot!
#167714From: Steve AhlstromOct 13, 1994 3:42 PM
BTW, IDI is continuing development and support of Ami-Back. They will have a section in AmigaVendor shortly … as soon as I decipher and reconstruct some badly formatted (with missing text) company profile material they sent me. -sja
#167770From: Wayne ColeOct 14, 1994 1:06 AM
Well, their defintion of support and Meriam Websters are diametrically opposed. When I talked to them (again) lat month about the non-working TapeWorm they sold to me at WOCA Pasedena in Sept '93, under the MoonLighter name, they informed me that no further development or bug fixes for Amiga products would be forthcoming unless the Amiga line is picked up buy someone and put back in production. That was in response to a specific question about the much vaunted AmiBack 3.0. Maybe they are the ones the trustees picked to get the remains of CBM :^} wmc – via Autopilot!
#167781From: Steve AhlstromOct 14, 1994 2:03 AM
AmiBack 3.0 is back in development. And a new product, Pretium, the new checkbook accounting software program for the Amiga will be available in November. Pretium is a personal accounting package designed to organize finances quickly and efficiently. Attractive charts and graphs.
#167889From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaOct 14, 1994 11:42 PM
Great. I can see it three months from now – "Pretium for Pentium" … But I'm glad AmiBack 3.0 is back in the oven. Martin needs some competition <g>. DJ On AP from Queens, the thrill and excitement of the Big Apple Where a little paranoia keeps you healthy and sane …
#168041From: Wayne ColeOct 16, 1994 2:57 AM
Interesting! Wonder what changed their mind from when I talked to them last month? They had tried to get orders for AB 3.0 updates a long time ago, but told me last month when I asked, that they had stopped development pending resolution of the C= affair…. wmc – via Autopilot!
#168209From: Jim SakladOct 17, 1994 11:35 PM
Steve – > And a new product, Pretium, the new checkbook accounting software > program for the Amiga will be available in November. Is this the rumored Quicken clone? jsaklad@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#168038From: Richard BeausangOct 16, 1994 1:48 AM
Wayne, What version of QBTools do you have? I had some checksum errors on my Work partition after a crash while I was unarcing some files. Previously, QBTools had no problems fixing this kind of thing. Under 3.1, it didn't do anything at all after reporting that all problems had been resolved. I wonder if it has problems with the dfc ffs file system? -Richard
#168129From: Wayne ColeOct 17, 1994 2:31 AM
QBTools 2.0.1 wmc – via Autopilot!
#168476From: Richard BeausangOct 20, 1994 1:34 AM
O.K. I tried with QBT1.5 not much luck. DiskSalv2 did the job although it wouldn't fix in place. This WB3.1 has been a series of headaches for me. My internal quantum has been hit real hard. I had remove the synch xfer and set the timeout to 2 secs just to get it to boot. No problems before. A few programs, notably ADPro, are exhibiting some strange performance. The darn thing starts trying to write to the drive right as it crashes my machine resulting in a disk validation problem just because I try to quit the program. -Richard
#168608From: Wayne ColeOct 21, 1994 2:58 AM
Richard, Did you try backing up the system under 2.x, reformatting the HDs intall 3.1 then restore all the applications? I don't think it is the OS. I got 3.1 installed and working fine eventhough I expected major hassles. So far, the one machine I put it on is no less reliable than the one still running 2.1 wmc – via Autopilot!