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#LW 3.5 Procedurals

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#44602From: Lance AtiyehDec 7, 1994 12:51 AM
Does anyone out there know how to use the new procedural tectures in LW3.5? I never recieved any documentation with my upgrade. I'm talking about CRUST and… oh I forget what it's called. Any help would be appreciated. Lance…Keepp on Toastin'
#44610From: Erik FlomDec 7, 1994 12:52 PM
'I never received any documentation with my upgrade.' Well, as a registered owner, you _could_ just call NewTek and get a manual. Since ALL upgrades were shipped with a manual, my assumption is that this 'upgrade' did not come directly from NewTek or one of their authorized resellers? Since you stole my tagline, I see piracy is a word not unfamiliar to you?
#44622From: Lance AtiyehDec 8, 1994 12:21 AM
<I see piracy is a word not unfamiliar to you> I did not pirate anything. When my station bought our Raptor Plus, our dealer gave us two diskettes with LW 3.5 to go with it. They did not come with labels attached, nor with any documentation. I was just trying to get some help. Don't assume the worst of people before you get the facts.
#44633From: Erik FlomDec 8, 1994 12:15 PM
'our dealer gave us two diskettes with LW 3.5 to go with it.' Gee, what a great 'bonus'. And I only had to pay $100. (Of course, if you're throwing your money away on a Raptor Plus, then maybe the dealer just took pity on you. You do realize, of course, that buying a Raptor Plus doesn't mean you get free software from another company?) Sounds like your dealer's the one you should be crying to. And, sorry if I'm a real ***hole about this, but there are lots of people with the cracked version of LW3.5 who seem to expect free advice from the rest of us who are scraping along w/o the benefit of free s/w and h/w.
#44643From: Lance AtiyehDec 8, 1994 11:03 PM
I ended up calling NewTek and they're going to send me a manual. What do you mean by a "cracked version of LW35"? Is that a piraated copy?
#44647From: Erik FlomDec 9, 1994 12:18 PM
"cracked version of LW35" Yes, there are cracked versions of LW3.5, AND LightRave 3.1. As such, there is an increasing number of 'newbies' on the Internet, asking questions similar to yours. A recent flame-fest torched some guy who had the balls to log on and say that he couldn't get his pirated copy to work, and then he berated the package for not working on his system. For some reason, he had no trouble justifying his use of pirated software, since he was 'so poor'. Well, boo hoo. If he's so poor, then he can drop his internet account to pay for the s/w! Sorry for being so hard-nosed about this. Glad you got the info you needed!
#44649From: Jim BroekDec 9, 1994 6:38 PM
Don't be Sorry for being had-nosed about the piracy issue. I agree 100% with you. The dealer who supplied a "copy" o3.5 should get smacked upside the head. While Toaster software is somewhat expensive, including the upgrade path. It is stillconsiderably less than other software on other platforms. Personally I think that 795 for a word processor on windows is 'built-in' piracy. One of the great advantages of Amiga ownership has been low cost software, and the publisher's deserve support for keeping our costs down.
#44652From: Erik FlomDec 9, 1994 9:26 PM
"Thanks for your support!" :^) I usually stay out of things like this, but I'd just had to wade through a bunch of e-mail on my internet account to & from some self-righteous pirateer who claimed he 'just wanted to make sure it ran on his system before buying it.' HAH! And where do you pay $795 for a windows word processor?!? Maybe SRP, but _definitely_ not list, unless you're referring to something like Quark – which is strictly for professionals. Then there's all those 'upgrade' deals', where you get the package for $129. Finally, most new PC's come bundled with some WP, so it's no real biggie. (Personally, I always thought Write did a decent job [better than Amiga's 'ed' or memacs for text formatting], and it comes _with_ Windows. [ie: free]) Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#44665From: BRAD HAYESDec 10, 1994 7:06 PM
I will top that: A few months back Tim Jenison and Lee Stranahan made a special trip out to the LA Toaster Use Group. They Demoed the Flyer and the rest of the 4.0 system. Just after they had done the LightWave 4.0 demo some guy in the front row raised his hand and asked, Will the new version of Lightwave work with LightRave?" I thought some one was going to get stomped. What a Maroon…
#44668From: Erik FlomDec 10, 1994 11:13 PM
Acchh! That's a real hoot! It's amazing how self-righteous these people can be!
#45241From: SyndesisJan 17, 1995 4:18 PM
Don't sweat, your tax dollars are at work, paying for endless numbers of educational Internet accounts, so college kids can learn all about piracy, e-mail etiquette, and online porn. Obviously, these things are more important than an education.
#45246From: Erik FlomJan 17, 1995 6:15 PM
Wish I knew where that one came from? If you want to talk 'tax dollars', move it over to 'Ramblings'. (Yeah, like paying for Internet is the worst thing those in power choose to waste money on?!? Ask Newt about keeping the 'frequent flyer' perks that our tax dollars pay for – he's the one who removed it from the House ethics bill they voted on today!!!!!!!!) There's a reason I stay out of political diatribes. Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#45254From: SyndesisJan 18, 1995 8:48 AM
Sorry, I was responding to a message posted back on December 9. I was appalled by the frequent flyer exclusion, too. Those Republicrats have a strange notion of "contract". 🙂
#45255From: Erik FlomJan 18, 1995 12:19 PM
Thanks, I know I have a short memory, but couldn't for the life of me remember what I'd said?!? :^) I just hope that people are watching what _ALL_ of our elected officials are doing, regardless of party…….. Erik Flom – ELF Works 3D Construction Co.
#45272From: SyndesisJan 19, 1995 8:27 AM
I think the messages are still here, if you want to 'ri' or read backwards to see the original messages.
#44644From: henry tellerDec 9, 1994 6:58 AM
PMFJI – But thanks to the paying public, Newtek, Oxxi, Utilities Unlimited, etc are still developing for the Amiga!!
#44623From: Lance AtiyehDec 8, 1994 12:37 AM
P.S. How about this for a NEW tagline… Burnt and Toasted Toasted not stirred Just plain Toasted or Keep on keepin' on… <G> Lance Channel 10 and Access America, Fairfax, Va.