CompuServe Thread

#AMosaic/http_proxy quest

7 messages in this thread
#214852From: Alex SchwassmannOct 10, 1995 10:31 AM
Hi everyone, after spending a painful afternoon with setting up my A4000/040 for accessing the internet via CIS I'm pleased to report that it works. I used the InterInstall script, BTW, and it worked with next to none problems. I've got one small niggle. I use AMosaic 2.0beta3 to browse the web, and again it works, but only using a strange workaround. I have in my ENV:/ENVARC: directory a file called "http_proxy" (without the quotation marks), and it contains a single line: http://www.wupper.de:80/ I used to access the Internet through a private provider that sadly ceased trading recently. This provider used the domain ".wupper.de". The installion of AMosaic dates back to that time. Whenever I access the web and point AMosaic to a new web site, AMosaic reports looking up www.wupper.de. Am I correct in assuming that AMosaic derives that address from "http_proxy"? If so, can I further assume that the purpose of looking up www.wupper.de is to find the correct addresses for URLs? Does www.wupper.de serve as a name server or some such? Now, using CIS, I tried to change "http_proxy" to http://www.compuserve.com:80/ assuming that Compuserve must have such a name server as well, but it didn't work at all. Whatever URL I enter, I get "Error 404, unable to find the specified page" (or a similar message to that effect). Now I've changed "http_proxy" back to its original content, any everything works fine. I'm completely befuddled. Altough it all works, I'd like to know why, and whether I can change "http_proxy" to something with a CompuServe address? I feel strange accessing another provider when I morally should be using CIS resources. Any enlightenment will be much appreciated! <g> Alex Alexander Schwassmann // EMail: aschwassmann@art-line.art-line.de my personal opinions … \X/ … will probably by different from yours
#215056From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPOct 11, 1995 7:58 PM
I'm not sure about the way it works in AMosaic, but for releases of Mosaic for X Window version 2.7b1 and earlier this is how it works: Setting http_proxy tells the browser to send all URLs that start with "http" to a special proxy server that makes the URL requests on your behalf. So, in your example, all URL requests are sent to www.wupper.de:80. The server on www.wupper.de listening on port 80 then makes the URL request for you, and www.wupper.de sends that info back to you. Not all servers proxy support (or have it turned on), so you can't just put in any random httpd server to be the proxy. Unless CIS supports this somewhere (and I don't think they do), you can't use any CIS address to proxy info for you. AMosaic was originally based on XMosaic, so I'm pretty sure it works the same way. The next version of XMosaic gets rid of all this "http_proxy" stuff for proxies, and provides a nice user interface for setting all types of proxies, even generic proxies to let people experiment with writing new protocols. This next version may be released this Friday, if all goes well. Steve
#215314From: Alex SchwassmannOct 14, 1995 12:00 PM
Hi Steve, << Setting http_proxy tells the browser to send all URLs that start with "http" to a special proxy server that makes the URL requests on your behalf. So, in your example, all URL requests are sent to www.wupper.de:80. The server on www.wupper.de listening on port 80 then makes the URL request for you, and www.wupper.de sends that info back to you. >> But what is is good for? I have now renamed the "http_proxy" as suggested in another post, and there is now operational difference for me – I simple type in an http request and AMosaic connects to the appropriate site without any hiccups. Alex Alexander Schwassmann // EMail: aschwassmann@art-line.art-line.de my personal opinions … \X/ … will probably by different from yours
#215857From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPOct 19, 1995 9:50 PM
What's a proxy server good for? Lots of stuff. If you're developing your own protocols, a browser with a generic proxy server can let you test those protocols without modifications to the browser. Most people don't do that sort of thing though. 🙂 On networks with firewalls to the Internet, a proxy server is frequently placed on the firewall to allow requests to come into it, so that it can make calls to the outside world on behalf of the users on the protected side of the firewall. Most internal traffic on a network is kept from passing through the firewall system for security reasons. A proxy server is a way around that. Steve
#215137From: Harald W. SchulzOct 12, 1995 6:00 PM
Hi Alex, While you have AMosaic up with CompuServe, you don't need the file in ENVARC:http_proxy . You can rename it, so you will be reminded, but it does not work then. If the entry for http_proxy ends with a <return>, it doesn't work either, so you have had the surprise, that it was apparently working:^) Don't forget to rename or delete ENV:http_proxy , so you must not reboot. BTW, I can see the Wupper from my house. Melde Dich mal. Harry with AP
#215315From: Alex SchwassmannOct 14, 1995 12:00 PM
Hi Harry, << While you have AMosaic up with CompuServe, you don't need the file in ENVARC:http_proxy . You can rename it, so you will be reminded, but it does not work then. >> Thanks for your help, I did as suggested, and it all still works! <g> << BTW, I can see the Wupper from my house. Melde Dich mal. >> Ich wohne in Ratingen, war aber User der AWorld/Pluribus, wegen deren Internet-Anschlus. Jetzt gibt's die nicht mehr, also nehme ich CIS. Vielen Dank noch mal! Alex Alexander Schwassmann // EMail: aschwassmann@art-line.art-line.de my personal opinions … \X/ … will probably by different from yours
#215310From: Lothar BartschOct 14, 1995 10:49 AM
Hi Alex, you should delete http_proxy if you use the web via CIS. CIS has no proxy servers. bye, Lothar Bartsch