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#Pentium OverDrive PV83

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#195133From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 12, 1995 7:55 PM
Just put in my Pentium over drive chip in and I'm on cloud nine. What a difference it made in 3D Studio. An animation that was taken 20 min.. a frame now is taken 10 min. 3D Studio takes advantage of the processor since it's still a 486 but a souped up 486. I'm glad I wanted instead of getting a Pentium. Now I can wait a little longer for the P6 chip to come out. I jut thought I would let everyone out know. Mike White [SDP]
#195173From: Robert C. RitgerOct 12, 1995 11:33 PM
Mike: I'm confused: >> Just put in my Pentium over drive chip in … 3D Studio takes advantage of the processor since it's still a 486 but a souped up 486. << Pentium=586 right? – Bob Ritger
#195197From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 13, 1995 1:59 AM
<<< Pentium=586 right?>>> No it's still a 486 running at 83 Megahertz Pentium. 3D Studio release 4 is optimized for 486's and since I'm still running 486 mother board it's going too take advantage of the speed. Mike
#195254From: Robert C. RitgerOct 13, 1995 12:08 PM
Mike: Do you have a ballpark price on the cost of this upgrade and a source for purchase and specs to check for system compatibility? – Bob Ritger
#195259From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 13, 1995 12:50 PM
<<<Do you have a ballpark price on the cost of this upgrade and a source for purchase and specs to check for system compatibility?>>> Price is around 299.00 and you can get is at any Comp U.S.A. and FRY's. Too check system requirements you can go Intel on Cserve and find compatibility for certain P.C's . Look in the overdrive library. If you have a ZIFF socket it will work. Meaning another row of pin slots surrounding your C.P.U. I'm really happy with my P.C's performance now. It will satisfy my needs until I can afford a P6. Mike
#195306From: Scott LawrenceOct 13, 1995 7:13 PM
Mike, >> If you have a ZIFF socket it will work. Meaning another row of pin slots surrounding your C.P.U<< Not necessarily so! One of my 486's has a Zif socket, but still not compatible! (Packard Bell system). I know 'cause I tried. It may run until it burns up! Scott
#195337From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 14, 1995 3:18 AM
Yes I've heard of certain problems like that, but I heard it was with the MT28 chip this one released in Sept. is a new one. If this a problem with the new over drive chip I would like too know. Thanks. Mike
#195324From: Robert C. RitgerOct 13, 1995 9:45 PM
Mike: Thanks for the chip info, I'll have to check it out. I would like to breathe some new life into my home system. – Bob Ritger
#195338From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 14, 1995 3:20 AM
I doesn't do any damage too try if you have the right mother board. Mike
#195393From: DennisOct 14, 1995 4:24 PM
Mike The POD83 is $269.00 + shipping from Insight. You can always sell your 486 chip after the upgrade
#195512From: Robert C. RitgerOct 15, 1995 7:51 PM
Dennis: Thanks for the info. Is there a market for a used 486/66 chip? – Bob Ritger
#195791From: DennisOct 17, 1995 4:48 PM
Some people still use 386's . The 486dx2/66 still sells for about $125.
#195792From: DennisOct 17, 1995 4:53 PM
Bob I've already got my 486/66 chip sold for $110. Lots of people still use 486/33's for things other than 3DS. Good luck with your upgrade! Dennis
#195832From: Robert C. RitgerOct 17, 1995 8:37 PM
Dennis: Good news about the chip market, thanks. I think I'll be trying to pull off this swap real soon. – Bob Ritger
#195186From: Stephen C. LevyOct 13, 1995 12:31 AM
Hi, Mike, What kind of 486 did you have before, that took 20 min.? Since I'm still suffering with my DX2/66, I gotta know if it'd help me that much!!! Thanx, SCL
#195198From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 13, 1995 2:03 AM
<<<What kind of 486 did you have before, that took 20 min.? Since I'm still suffering with my DX2/66, I gotta know if it'd help me that much!!! >>> I have a EISA VLB with a ZIFF socket. It was a DX2 66 Now its a 83 megahertz pentium. If you have the ZIFF socket you need to get the Over Drive chip a you'll double you speed! Its a Intel Over Drive chip part number is BOXPODP5V83. Mike
#195263From: CSA/CAOct 13, 1995 1:28 PM
Mike, What EISA motherboard do you happen to have? I have one system that should have, but will not accept the Pentium OverDrive (regardless of the compatibility lettered on the socket. Fortunately, Intel will take the chips back. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#195307From: Scott LawrenceOct 13, 1995 7:15 PM
Hi Kevin, I ran into the same problem. Pentium Overdrive is not universally compatible, regardless of ZIF socket! Scott
#195372From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 14, 1995 2:27 PM
<<< What EISA motherboard do you happen to have? >>> Hello Kevin I have a Hint-3/486WB. I purchased it for Comtrade here in Calif about a 2 years ago. It's call the EISA Dream machine. I checked out FRY's yesterday and they weren't selling it any more. Mike
#195402From: CSA/CAOct 14, 1995 6:29 PM
Thanks, Mike. Turned out better than 1 from Micronics. Kevin Krell – Computer Support Associates
#195300From: Stephen C. LevyOct 13, 1995 5:58 PM
Mike, Thanx for the scoop! A $300 speed doubler? How could I go wrong? SCL
#195376From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 14, 1995 2:31 PM
Your welcome. Check out the file in the Intel forum listing what machines a compatible. You also can call Intel's tech support. Their phone number for the over drive support is 800-899-4508. Mike
#195388From: Kamran BehbahanizadehOct 14, 1995 3:47 PM
>>Now I can wait a little longer for the P6 chip to come out.<< Don't wait a long time for P6 ! As recent articles showed that P6 is much slower in 16 Bit apps, you have to have all your programs in 32 bit to take advantage of this faster CPU. Wonder if a DOS application like 3DS4 can have some 32 bit parts ! Kamran
#195475From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 15, 1995 2:26 PM
<<<Don't wait a long time for P6 ! As recent articles showed that P6 is much slower in 16 Bit apps, you have to have all your programs in 32 bit to take advantage of this faster CPU>>> Thanks for the info on P6 I'll look more into it. It' good too know that. <<Wonder if a DOS application like 3DS4 can have some 32 bit parts!>> Yes 3D Studio is a true 32 application. All the way around from 3D Studio too IPAS. Mike
#195497From: Kamran BehbahanizadehOct 15, 1995 6:07 PM
Mike, >>Yes 3D Studio is a true 32 application. All the way around from 3D Studio too IPAS.<< Are you sure ? 3DS is running under DOS that is a 16 bit OS with no 32 bit parts ! Is the DOS extender has something to do with this other than breaking the 640K barrier of DOS ? Regards, Kamran
#195524From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 15, 1995 9:06 PM
<<<Are you sure ? 3DS is running under DOS that is a 16 bit OS with no 32 bit parts ! Is the DOS extender has something to do with this other than breaking the 640K barrier of DOS ?>>> I quite sure since we compile our IPAS with Watcom C++ 32 bit. What gives it away is that you have to use Pharlap too tell 3D Studio how too handle swap, memory , etc.. Yes the DOS extender is exactly it. 3D Studio can access more then a GIG or RAM if running software like QEMM/OS2,etc… Mike
#195556From: Kamran BehbahanizadehOct 16, 1995 2:45 AM
Thanks a lot for shading a spot light on my doubt Mike.<g> Kamran
#195609From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Oct 16, 1995 2:15 PM
<<<Thanks a lot for shading a spot light on my doubt Mike.<g>>>> No problem any time. Mike