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#NT Help!

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#195800From: david W. mennenohOct 17, 1995 5:54 PM
Help! Sometime today, something seems to have happened to my DOS boot file. When I reboot and the NT boot menu appears and I choose MS-DOS I get the following error: I/O error accessing boot sector file multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\\BOOTSECT.DOS Selecting NT works fine and if I boot to a floppy I can access my C: drive so hopefully it's nothing too serious. I'm working on a couple of projects that both need to be finished by Thursday and without a lot of screwing around to make a boot floppy – I can't access any of my SCSI stuff or the PAR. I can't find anything in the NT manuals that says anything about this error. Any ideas? I have to get this fixed ASAP. DM
#195812From: Mike MorganOct 17, 1995 7:17 PM
David, It's going to be hard to trouble shoot without knowing what you have done with hardware/software in the last day or so. My first thought is if your SCSI chain is not properly terminated. The NT operating system takes a good look at your system hardware before booting, I can speak from experience, I had SCSI problems last week (on Friday the 13th) and I was very suspicious of a virus. The problem ended up being improper termination and the system did not want to boot to NTFS until I corrected the problem. -Mike !^NavFont01F0007MGHHHA8DB34
#195983From: david W. mennenohOct 18, 1995 5:24 PM
Thanks anyway Mike but it was nothing to do with the SCSI hardware. I've got it all fixed and believe everyone may want to have info on this. Here goes: When using NT with a FAT partition (such as if you're using dual boot) a file called BOOTSECT.DOS is created in C:\ Basically this file is your boot sector which contains hardware specific data that allows you to boot your FAT formatted drive. On two machines that I have this file is not hidden or read only or system. It can simply be deleted. Oops. Reinstalling NT and selecting repair (even if check boot files is selected) will not replace the file. Evidently the repair program only checks to see if the system files are there. The trick is to SYS your C: using a boot floppy. You need to use the same DOS version. You then reinstall NT and select repair and this time it will see that the files are missing and replace them, along with the BOOTSECT.DOS file. I used the emergency repair disk and everything was back to normal. Scary. I haven't tried hiding the file but I will and see what happens. For now I have put a copy of it on a floppy though. DM
#196006From: Mike MorganOct 18, 1995 7:04 PM
Dave, Wow! Kinda scary. I'm not using a FAT, just NTFS so I haven't even seen that file, sure a good one to file away in the old database. Glad to see ya up and going again. -Mike !^NavFont01F0007MGHHG8AAA7A
#196429From: david W. mennenohOct 21, 1995 2:05 PM
>> Glad to see ya up and going again. Thanks Mike. Mee too! DM
#195976From: Tyler ColwellOct 18, 1995 3:53 PM
Hi Dave, I have heard that if you are running DOS/NT dual boot, then you don't want to run any utilities such as Norton Disk Doctor that looks for file allocation errors and corrects them. If allowed to correct, it can screw things up. Is this a possibility? -tyler
#195985From: david W. mennenohOct 18, 1995 5:25 PM
See my reply to Mike morgan for what it was. I will keep in mind the bit about Disk doctor though. How about Speeddisk or MS defrag? How about checkdsk /f? Anyone got any more info on this? DM
#196034From: John SchmidtOct 18, 1995 10:46 PM
Dave, >> How about Speeddisk or MS defrag? Using NT and the FAT, I often run scandisk and defrag, (from a DOS boot), without any problems at all. John
#196097From: Rick MillerOct 19, 1995 10:03 AM
John, When I run Dos 6.22 defrag I loose my profile and have to reconfigure again. Wonder what is different about your system? Regards…………Rick – Technical Animations
#196376From: John SchmidtOct 20, 1995 11:01 PM
Rick, >> Wonder what is different about your system? 'No idea. I do this regularly on 3 computers running NT. I'd GO WINNT and see if someone knows the answer. John
#196409From: Rick MillerOct 21, 1995 9:29 AM
John, Are you using a dual boot setup? Regards………….Rick – Technical Animations
#196462From: John SchmidtOct 21, 1995 10:01 PM
Rick, >> Are you using a dual boot setup? Actually; a triple boot setup…Win NT, MS DOS, and Win 95. John BTW; if you ever check out MS Plus for Win95, take a look at the pinball game…I swear the pinball table looks like it was created in 3D Studio. 'Anyone know? John
#196430From: david W. mennenohOct 21, 1995 2:07 PM
>> Using NT and the FAT, I often run scandisk and defrag, (from a DOS boot), without any >> problems at all. Good to know that this works ok. Figures that it should. Thanks for the info. DM
#196052From: Oct 19, 1995 12:58 AM
Dave: >> How about Speeddisk or MS defrag? How about checkdsk /f? Checkdsk, defrag, and scandisk are all fine for drives with long file names under NT. Norton's speedisk (SD) and directory sort (DS) will trash the long file names, but aside from that work fine. Greg Pyros
#196431From: david W. mennenohOct 21, 1995 2:13 PM
>>Checkdsk, defrag, and scandisk are all fine for drives with long file names under NT. Thanks Greg. That's good to hear. I'm really liking NT so far. Aside from this one little problem it's been very nice. Have you used Speed Razor NT yet? Does it work with the PAR ok? I can't wait to have everything running under NT. I think it's will be a much more productive environment. DM
#196096From: Rick MillerOct 19, 1995 10:03 AM
Dave, I have a dual boot system. When I run Dos 6.22 Defrag I lose my Profile. When I start NT 3.51 I get the message, "Your profile cannot be loaded. A copy of your default profile will be loaded instead." I have to reconfigure NT with my personal preferences and all is well again. There is a program that will defrag a NT system, but it sells for $150, it' called Diskeeper by Executive Software. Their fragmentation analyser is in lib 4 of the 'NTWORK forum, it has all data to contact them. This software will work on a NTFS drive, you would want to confirm that it works on a FAT drive before you buy. It seem that I read that chkdsk will not run while is NT is up, but will run it after you shutdown or before it boots up the next time, something like that. Again they have the complete answer in the NTWORK forum. Regards………….Rick – Technical Animations
#196090From: Rick MillerOct 19, 1995 9:13 AM
Dave, You might try the "NTWORK" forum, its sponsored by the Windows NT magazine. They are not affiliated with Microsoft and should give you a pretty fast response. Regards……………Rick – Technical Animations
#196432From: david W. mennenohOct 21, 1995 2:14 PM
Thanks for info on NTWORK DM
#196400From: Dennis FenskeOct 21, 1995 7:55 AM
Dave; >> I/O error accessing boot sector file Glad you are back up and running. I had a similar problem after using the NT Disk Manager. It said I needed to at a header at the beginning of the Hard Disk so I could access it in the future. I said "OK", and then got this error the next time I attempted to boot. I was not as fortunate as you, and needed to reinstall NT, and the one other application I had on the HD. I was unable to access even NT. Dennis
#196434From: david W. mennenohOct 21, 1995 2:17 PM
>> I said "OK" Well, I'll be sure and cancel if I ever see that message. 🙂 Thanks for the info. DM