CompuServe Thread

#VRML with CDK.

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#195613From: KERWIN J. KASSULKEROct 16, 1995 2:53 PM
Is anyone out there working with VRML (Virtual Reality Modeling Language) in CDK? Or does it not make sense to develop in CDK (I am still a little green on all of the details for VRML.) I have read that Autodesk is planning to give an IPAS plug-in for R4 of 3DS that will allow the creation of VRML environments (before the release of MAX.)
#195846From: Gary K. SimOct 17, 1995 9:33 PM
Hi there, I've been surfing around looking for VRML software. Autodesk has already made the VRML.PXP available at their www site, calling it the "3D Studio R4 to VRML 1.0 converter", and it works quite well (as in simple and easy), and the files it produces are actually viewable in VRML viewing programs (unlike some other file types which seem to crash or lock up a lot). The release I downloaded was version 1.1 of Aug 15/95, it may have been updated since then. It was only 49k file size. It may even be in the Compuserve IPAS library, but I don't know for sure. Drop me a line if you can't find it or can't get on the web, and I'll send it to you. regards, Gary
#195988From: KERWIN J. KASSULKEROct 18, 1995 5:33 PM
Thanks for the info. Gary…. I am going to search the web sight (which I have not yet done) after checking the compserve IPAS section. Guess I should have done my homework. 😐 Thanks again!
#195994From: KERWIN J. KASSULKEROct 18, 1995 5:45 PM
Gary, I just checked the IPAS section on compuserve and it did not have the IPAS VRML…. come to think of it, I remember checking for all keywords releated to VRML, and the only match that comes up is for Microngreen down in florida (which by the way, is a developer using CDK.) * You mentioned that you have a VRML viewer… can you lend me a tip on where I might download a viewer? Are you working with Autodesk's CDK? * I am starting a center in Minneapolis for creating full scale mock-ups of machine designs' & architecture using CDK & 3DS.
#196007From: Gary K. SimOct 18, 1995 7:17 PM
Hi Kerwin, The site with the most comprehensive list of VRML sites that I've found is: http://www.paperinc.com/architec.html This page has a lot of interesting links that will take you quite a while to check out. I haven't really found a viewer that I'm happy with yet, altho' I'm still fooling around with a bunch. You could even try downloading VISCIS, the virtual viewer for Compuserve, tho it's not VRML as such. I'm fiddling with WebFX, the CDK Navflyer (from Microngreen), and Homespace Builder at the moment. I don't have the CDK, so I've been looking for ways to create worlds without paying money up front (virtual cheapness, buying 3DS blew the budget), that's one reason why I like the VRML.PXP program, since it links to 3D Studio, which will hopefully negate any need for another modelling program. Your center in Minneapolis sounds interesting. I think VRML has a great potential for allowing architectural and engineering clients to view their projects on their own, at their own convenience and location, or in collaboration with the arch/eng's,. And when we can go surfing through the cable t.v. bandwidth, this field will really explode. Right now everything I've seen, even running locally on my hard drive, seems pathetically slow, but then I'm nuts for fast computer visuals. If you're going to run any of this stuff under Windows 3.1 you'll need to upgrade with WIN32S and WinG if you haven't already. If you're on any other platform I can't help other than in principle. <g> Anyway, that's about it for now. If you have any other questions, or need some help, let me know. Any wild discoveries on your part or mine would be nice to be shared… Although it would be preferable IMHO to keep this thread going in this forum, I don't check my Compuserve account as often as my Internet account, so if you had anything time-sensitive or private you could also e-mail me at: Gary_Sim@mindlink.bc.ca I hope to have a VRML web site up there in the next few weeks, as part of my home page design project in the works. Bye from Vancouver, Canada, Gary
#196033From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]Oct 18, 1995 10:45 PM
<< The site with the most comprehensive list of VRML sites that I've found is: >> 3D Studio R4 to VRML 1.0 Converter Release 1.1 Product Information Please check out http://www.autodesk.com/prod/mm/vrmlconv.htm. Become a Convert This is the home of Autodesk's 3D Studio to VRML 1.0 Converter. It's an IPAS module that runs only under 3D Studio Release 4. The VRML 1.0 Converter converts 3D Studio objects (including meshes and lights) into VRML 1.0 standard format. jonas[adesk]
#196092From: Gary K. SimOct 19, 1995 9:17 AM
Hi there, thanks for jumping in! I downloaded VRML.ZIP and installed the IPAS, it works great! Plug-ins win again… I'm trying to go cheap on VRML and save up for MAX, so solutions like VRML.PXP are just the ticket for me right now… Regards, Gary
#196984From: Angela PateOct 25, 1995 8:52 AM
PMFJI I saw you were checking out our VRML support on NAVFlyer. I would be very interested for some feedback, if you could email me your phone number I would like to chat for a few minutes. Of course performance speeds are at the top of my list. We have some nice projects going currently with a few architects building some 3D pages on their web site that can be accessed through our web page soon (as soon as they are through final approval suposedly this friday) so keep an eye out for them. One is an interesting one of a Brain Center addition to a hospital with a large portion of the surrounding area included. Since NAVFlyer supports downloading either VRML, DXF or 3DS files I am not sure which format they will end up using on the posted version, I suspect 3DS instead of VRML. But ALL these file formats can be used with Netscape and NAVFlyer. You must configure Netscape to use NAVFlyer as a browser whenever you download a DXF,3DS or WRL (VRML) file from someones HTML page. Then NAVFleyr launches directly from Netscape when the 3D file is "clicked on". Let me know if you need help in doing this. Thanks for the interest and please email me if you would like to chat. Angela Pate MicronGreen
#197098From: Gary K. SimOct 25, 1995 10:28 PM
Hello Angela No worries about jumping in, we need as many people as we can get huddled around the VRML campfire out here on the frontier! I've been cruising around the net downloading misc. browsers and trying them out, but real life keeps getting in the way, especially recently. I work for a firm of architects in Vancouver, B.C. Canada. Interestingly, much of our work is in healthcare, we've done everything from entire hospitals down to renos which include Open Heart Surgery suite, angiography, CAT scan rooms, and so on. We've been really busy recently, so I confess I haven't done much about using your browser since downloading it. I installed it and took it for a spin, but that's about it. That aside, I'd be happy to talk to you about it or VRML in general. I've been using 3D Studio for 3 years, and have modeled a number of our projects with it, including a $13,000,000.00 addition to a hospital in Williams Lake, and various other healthcare and commercial jobs. I have an Internet account ( Gary_Sim@mindlink.bc.ca ) but I'm still in the process of building my home pages. I guess I'm being stalled by techno-overkill, since I want to not only have graphics, but sound, animations, and VRML models, and getting it all figured out and authored is taking longer than I would like. Sigh. I won't have a problem getting Netscape to work with VRML browsers. Time is the problem. I've downloaded the Netscape 2.0 browser, haven't even gotten around to installing it and taking it for a spin! For my purposes, 3DS would be the ideal format for a VRML browser, but I suspect that it would be a niche market on the Net in general. Anyway, I'd be happy to talk to you about any of this. My number at work is (604) 669-2224, home is (604) 688-1644. We just cranked a couple of projects out to tender, so my time is free-er for the moment than it has been for some time. Our office is days away from opening its own Internet account, for which I'm working on some WWW page designs. Since some of our clients are in Europe, I'm going to try and get a VRML file or two up and running in this account as well. I think that having our clients fly themselves through their projects would be Tres cool! I'd be interested in seeing any VRML pages you have up and running architecturally, a demo might well help me with my cause at the office (heh, heh, architects can be so Parallel-ruled…) Thanks for writing, Regards, Gary Sim