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#Why the Flyers are late

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#98281From: Fred BerneyJan 6, 1995 5:13 PM
This is the latest. It seems that NewTek had a problem with the CD ROM Disks. So, the Flyer did not ship Saturday as expected. Supposedly, a shippment went out today, Fed Ex. I'll know tomorrow. This is unbelievable. For once I've got the money for something and I'm waiting for the item. Usually, it is the other way around. And of course I'm paying interest on a check that is just sitting on my desk.
#98288From: MICHAEL SMITHJan 6, 1995 7:46 PM
Talk about luxury problems!!
#98293From: Fred BerneyJan 6, 1995 11:07 PM
Mike, About two years ago, I heard about Panasonic's MX-50. I know I just had to have it. So, I ordered it. The only problem was, I didn't have enough cash at that moment to pay for it. However, I knew it would take a few days to arrive, so I worked like made to finish up outstanding projects, and was lucky to have some new work just come into the studio that was unexpected. By the time the MX-50 arrived (COD), I had scrapped up the cash to pay for it. This time, I got smart. I waited about a week before I was told the Flyer would ship and I started calling on banks. The second one we talked to made us a loan. In fact I rushed the loan through, since I thought that I was going to have the Flyer on Jan 3rd. The banker even came out to our studio to deliver the check. Talk about service – even doctors don't make house calls. So, now, there is the check, the interest started on Jan 5th, and no Flyer. Ah, I just figured it out. I'm the reason the Flyers didn't ship. I planned ahead. I should have just skipped the loan and I would probably be working in NLE by now. I've had the same luck with trying to take a vacation. Plan way ahead and something always comes up. Jump in the car and drive is usually the only way we ever get away.
#98291From: Gary KleinerJan 6, 1995 9:01 PM
Fred, Thanks for the info. That's more than I could find out today. I now have everything I need BUT the Flyer itself (paid all that extra freight for overnight shipments too!). Let's keep each other posted. Gary
#98294From: Fred BerneyJan 6, 1995 11:07 PM
I let you know what I find out tomorrow. I think we should have started a pool to see what date the Flyer would really arrived. This is almost as bad as wait for AVID to ship their system. I was promised a system way back in September. Now, I've been told that it won't arrive until last January. I waiting to see which comes first. The Flyer or the AVID. With my luck they will both arrive at the same time. AVID is sending me their system so that I can review it for Wedding Videography Today. Fred
#98434From: Michael TerryJan 9, 1995 9:47 AM
I was visiting with a competitor yesterday at a bridal expo and he mentioned his Flyer arrived on 1/5. He wasn't entirely happy though, no hard drives yet. Thought you might be interested.
#98435From: Frank VanellaJan 9, 1995 10:45 AM
Michael, Did you ask if he actually ordered hard drives that were available? Apparently the 9 gigs are'nt available in quantity (Newtek approved) as of yet. It's somewhat encouraging to here that mere mortals are starting to get their hands on their very own Flyers though. I hope to have mine sometime this week. Frank
#98436From: Michael MiloffJan 9, 1995 12:37 PM
To those also anxiously awaiting their flyer. Finally, we have gotten our beta flyer including 2 2GIG drives. We were not able to fully load the software on our other drive (its full and we're changing back-up systems) so a lot of the functions are not yet working. Its too difficult thus to draw any conclusions. But preliminary reactions (I haven't seen it) from those who have played around with it over the weekend is 1) beautiful video 2)good interface 3) lots of bugs – but the bugs might all go away (idealism!!) once we fully load the software. We want to get a 9 gig drive from NEWTEK so we can start doing serious stuff.
#98496From: BRAD HAYESJan 9, 1995 11:01 PM
Michael: How much free space do you need to load the software? I expect to get a call from my dealer any day now. I sure would like to have things rearanged befor then. I have heard 300megs, how accurate is that?
#98502From: henry tellerJan 10, 1995 12:00 AM
PMFJI – The Flyer install provides a complete replacement for the Toaster 3.1 software and adds considerably to the number of objects and effects available. You will need 300megs to install from CD-ROM, which is all that is shipping with the 3.9 systems. You can pick and choose in the install script, but I'd hate to have to leave something out. I figured out a way to load the software to the Flyer drives, but that is ultimately a terrible waste of expensive space. It does work as a short term approach.
#98522From: Michael MiloffJan 10, 1995 9:23 AM
I found that you can't run properly off the Flyer drive, especially effects which conflict with the video which is already accessing both drive in an A/B roll situation. It's not recommended and you'll probably crash if you keep it up. Just thought I's add my two cents.
#98582From: henry tellerJan 10, 1995 11:30 PM
That's a combo I hadn't considered, nor did Newtek tech support. I'll see what they have to say about it. I hope to be up and running Wednesday morning if the updated install disks solve my problem. Keep in touch. Hank Videology, Inc Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all circumstances.
#98521From: Michael MiloffJan 10, 1995 9:19 AM
Your 300 mb number is the number that NewTek recommends. We were unable to find enough room for most effects, PS fonts, Color fonts, and a whole lot of other files which support CG, Paint and 3D. Also missing from our system drive appear to be some aux. files which control basic functions like saving projects. We decided to upgrade (at high cost) with a NewTek 9 gig drive and use one of the 2's as our system drive. Got to go! Keep in touch and let us know when you get your.
#98654From: Michael TerryJan 11, 1995 8:23 PM
Frank, He said his hard drives were on backorder. He jumped on the bandwagon early (last May/June). He didn't specify what hard drives he's waiting for. Mt
#98478From: Fred BerneyJan 9, 1995 7:48 PM
I called my dealer today. He said my unit was ready. They had installed the drives over the weekend and all I had to do was bring in my Amiga and they would install the rest. I'm picking it up tomorrow and I'll let you know late tomorrow night how it works. Probably won't get any sleep Tuesday night. Was your competitor unhappy about not having the drives or some other aspect of the Flyer. Fred
#98555From: Gary KleinerJan 10, 1995 6:24 PM
Fred, My Flyer will be arriving tomorrow. If I didn't just spend 3 12 hour days on a project I wouldn't sleep as much either.But I did…..so I will. Later,
#98557From: Fred BerneyJan 10, 1995 7:01 PM
Gary, My eyes are just too tired to see straight. Just got back from a 561 mile round trip. But, I got my Flyer. I'll take it into the office tormorrow morning and let you know what I think. Fred
#98658From: Michael TerryJan 11, 1995 8:36 PM
Fred, He's not unhappy, just patiently waiting to put it to work, recoup some of his investment. Just like you, he can't wait for those all night sessions climbing the curve to NL bliss. I think I'll wait until the two of you have all the bugs work out. In the meantime, I'll call on his customers early in the morning, while he's he's still asleep :'> If I'm sneaky enough, I might be able to order one of my own! Good luck and have fun! Mt BTW – I met you at the APV Convention, SIV session. You were pretty busy, but I did have a nice conversation with your wife!
#98681From: Fred BerneyJan 12, 1995 10:02 AM
Michael, I told Ellen that you said hello. Fred