CompuServe Thread

#Usenet access via Amitcp

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#216128From: james layOct 21, 1995 11:36 PM
Stephen, The third file you needed to get while at the Thor WWW site was a socket library. When installing this library you also need to add an assign. Something about INET. <<Ya, you have to unarc everything into the same dir>> Same rumor the listserver suggested. P.S. While back at the website picking up the socket.library, there is a beta fix for a couple files in connect Thor. Click on the hypertext "ftp". You'll be on going within, we'll say five minutes, (takes four to get all the groups). Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom, Thor2.1 and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com" You can thank me later for updating your Sig. Jim
#216139From: stephen savnerOct 22, 1995 2:46 AM
James, Yes, thanks for updating my sug. HE HE… I don't think i can fit any more onto it. I have the socket.library in my libs: dir and in the thor:libs/ dir. AmiTCP uses it. When i try to use thor, AmiTCP is already running and should have the lib. loaded already. I've been having some trouble connecting to the web sit you told me about. So, it might not be an option. By the way, i had thor running once today and i have no idea how i did it. I havn't been able to do it again. What do i have to assign and where. The only assign i have is for the Thor dir. Again, thanks for all the help. Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"
#216173From: james layOct 22, 1995 10:04 AM
Stephen, << I have the socket.library in my libs: dir and in the thor:libs/ dir. AmiTCP uses it. When i try to use thor, AmiTCP is already running and should have the lib. loaded already.>> <<What do i have to assign and where>> assign INET: AmiTCP: to your S:User-Startup somewhere after the AmiTCP assign. << I've been having some trouble connecting to the web sit you told me about. So, it might not be an option.>> I also had some trouble hooking up to this site until I registered the PPP.device. It really speeds up the works. 50% I would guess. Jim
#216143From: stephen savnerOct 22, 1995 3:32 AM
Ok, The problem is definatly the socket.library. I went to the web page and downloaded the lib and it is the exact same one that AmiTCP uses. Still no joy. Thor is not able to load it in for some reason. You said something about an assign?!? I'm lost here. I go online with the slip on CIS and use Amosaic and all just fine. It's only thor i can't use. Whenever i try anything with it it give me the error about couldn't load socket.library. I know i'm just missing something small somewhere. Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"
#216174From: james layOct 22, 1995 10:04 AM
Stephen, <<I know i'm just missing something small somewhere>> If the socket library got autoloaded by an installer of something I doubt you got the docs. Which makes computing alot easier B^). Jim
#216208From: stephen savnerOct 22, 1995 7:02 PM
James, Found the problem. The socket.library was not copied to the AmiTCP:libs/ dir. Don't know how i got away with that for so long!?! Thank you sir for all the help. I'm happy know.:) Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"
#216244From: Gracia M. LittauerOct 22, 1995 11:07 PM
PMFBI, I was told to forget the socket.lib, that when AmiTCP is runit creates it each time. Nothing would work when I had it in the AmiTCP/libs. Good figure <G>. Gracia, on AutoPilot from Cooleemee, NC
#216249From: stephen savnerOct 23, 1995 12:13 AM
Gracia, Everything seems to work ok with socket.lib in the AmiTCP:libs/ dir. Amosaic, gopher, ftp, Thor, ect… I'm not having any problems with anything anymore. When you run the Internet script, it loads the socket.lib from AmiTCP:libs/ So, it's looking for it there. Never heard of it creating it. Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"
#216335From: Gracia M. LittauerOct 23, 1995 5:51 PM
Steven, Funny I don't have it there & everything runs <G>. BUT I did just look at the startup file & indeed it says to load it from TCP:LIBS!!! I swear it didn't work when I had it in TCP:libs & I was told it gets loaded (I thought it was created, but od course I was wrong <G>) when INTER151 starts AmiTCP. I know I don't have it in TCP:libs. Gracia, on AutoPilot from Cooleemee, NC
#216369From: stephen savnerOct 23, 1995 11:22 PM
Gracia, Everything works fine for me with or without the lib in TCP:libs/. Thor is the only one that seems to need it there. Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"
#216255From: james layOct 23, 1995 3:11 AM
Gracia, <<PMFBI, I was told to forget the socket.lib, that when AmiTCP is run it creates it each time. Nothing would work when I had it in the AmiTCP/libs>> Don't forget the Assign. The readme file that comes with the socket file really sheds (about a sun and a half worth) of light on the subject. I think the author is waaayyy out there (that would be a compliment 🙂 ) The more sockets the merrier Jim
#216334From: Gracia M. LittauerOct 23, 1995 5:51 PM
James, That may all be true, though I have yet to read a read.me or Docs that actually tells you how to use a program <VBG>. They usuually tell you how clever he is & all the clever technical tricks that are included. I just reread docs & I'm semi lost, I get the big picture though. BUT I don't have the sockey file in the TCP:libs dir & it works & when I did, it didn't! I seem to remember Chris saying it gets loaded (sorry I said created) when his script start when I asked about it & I indeed found the line in the startup script where it does say that BUT I don't have socket.lib in ATC:libs!. Gracia, on AutoPilot from Cooleemee, NC
#216378From: james layOct 24, 1995 2:04 AM
Gracia, After some investigating I found the loadsocket file in my iNTERiNSTALL directory which uses the loadlib command the socket.library author refers to in his docs. After some more investigating I found the socket.library in my HD3:AmiTCP/libs but not in my HD3:iNTERiNSTALL/AmiTCP-4.0/Libs directory. Could that be our point of confusion? I also remember Thor kept asking for the socket.library until I added "assign INET: AmiTCP:" (where did the socket.library author come up with that anyway) to my Sys:S/User-Startup. Now you've got me real confused because I'm wondering why I need the assign when the AmiTCP:bin/startinternet has the lines; Assign INET: Exists >NIL: IF Warn Mount INET: from AmiTCP:devs/Inet-Mountlist EndIf Assign TCP: Exists >NIL: IF Warn Mount TCP: from AmiTCP:devs/Inet-Mountlist EndIf ; Start the internet `super server' run AmiTCP:bin/inetd if EXISTS AmiTCP:LIBS/socket.library LOADLIB AmiTCP:LIBS/socket.library I'm not an Amigados expert by any means so I guess stumping me should come as no suprise. If anyone can enlighten me it would be appreciated. Jim
#216455From: Gracia M. LittauerOct 24, 1995 3:58 PM
James, Truly a mystery, since I don't have socket.lib anywhere <G> & everything works. I guess Thor works. I have run it but haven't used it yet since I haven't a real clue what it gets on the NET. As usual rotten docs, just a programer's ego trip of 'neat' technical things…some day someome or an article in mag will make the connection. We just got local area dialing to Winston, so my calls are free, free at last <G>. I took the $25/20 hr deal because it matched anything here & I need the extra hrs for union BBS I Telnet to & all those nice Conferences. I find I spend too much time looking for stuff in the Amiga sections of NET & can't remeber where things are when I want to go back to them. I guess it take time to get used to. Gracia, on AutoPilot from Cooleemee, NC
#216524From: james layOct 24, 1995 11:04 PM
Gracia, <<I find I spend too much time looking for stuff in the Amiga sections of NET & can't remeber where things are when I want to go back to them. I guess it take time to get used to.>> I pondered dropping CI$ but it definately fills the void in that respect. Ease of finding info. The internet access has been an added plus for the occasional netuser. Jim
#216251From: james layOct 23, 1995 2:15 AM
Stephen, <<Thank you sir for all the help. I'm happy know.:)>> Look at it as an "I get to pick your brain next" savings account. Jim
#216258From: stephen savnerOct 23, 1995 3:45 AM
James, You got it, any time. Stephen…AutoPilot 1.80, Mosaic1.2, Gui-FTP, Gopher, ALynx, CD-Rom and three hard drives. All on one A500! E-Mail "savner@clubmet.metrobbs.com"