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#Toaster & Flyer Drives

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#98901From: Fred BerneyJan 14, 1995 5:07 PM
Gary, I was wrong about the Toaster not being able to read the GB Flyer drives. I forgot, the dealer had changed the name of my FrameStore directory to FrameStore2 and that was keeping the requester from finding it. Once I changed the name back to FrameStore, it works fine. At least some things work. From what I could tell today, the problem I am having has to do with video clips being recorded and played back. I recorded one clip that played back with out any color except purple. Who said the Flyer didn't come with color correction. I re-recorded the clip and it was fine. Clips that I had recorded yesterday, would not play back today. Then I decided to play with TPaint. I think a lot of the features are missing or at least they are on my version. But, one nice one that did work was the ability to pull in an entire video clip. I pulled up a 27 second clip. I think this is were you can do rotoscoping. I kinda remember the concept from working in film. Now, I've got to figure out how it works in video. If you want to see how your system freezes, play around with TPaint. Some of the features are there and some of the ones that are not will freeze the Flyer with you press their button. A very expensive mystery game. Let me know how things are working on your end. Fred
#98912From: Nicholas A. PatrinJan 14, 1995 7:04 PM
Fred, regarding your problems with "purple clips", previously recorded clips not playing back, and frozen frames during transitions: this is only a stab in the dark, but it may be that the Flyer may not be matching color frames properly, and the discontinuity is Sc phase (or SC/H phase) is hanging things up. Does your Flyer manual have anything to say about color framing….whether the Flyer is supposed to handle that automatically, or whether the user has to worry about it somehow and follow certain proceedures? Nick
#98947From: Charles D SteinkuehlerJan 15, 1995 10:04 AM
To the best of my knowledge, the Flyer is locking to the Toaster Main out, which is stable and unambiguous in terms of SC/H phase. In this mode, only the Toaster is determining system SC/H phase, to avoid the Toaster and Flyer disaggreing on input video phase. The flyer also has a larger lock range than the toaster, so in general if the Toaster system you had locked well, adding the Flyer should not cause problems (at least genlock problems). NOTE: As the toaster output is fairly unstable (high frequency chroma jitter) when run without a reference input, I would always try to provide reference sync to the system. Charles Steinkuehler
#98988From: Fred BerneyJan 15, 1995 6:07 PM
Nick, The manual on this version is not complete. There is a great amount of detail on Toster Paint, CG, and Lightwave. But, as far as setting up the system – very little. However, just to make sure that my system didn't have a bad file, I re-installed all of the disk. The dealer had done this for me originally, so I didn't know what to expect. My manual had nothing included as far as installing the software. When it was completely installed, I noticed an icon that read something like HUE-Install or some such wording that I felt it may have to do with color. It seems to run some kind of automatic program. The video monitor turns all kind of colors. So, I would imagine that this is some kind of color set up. There are not controls to adjust or settings to change, so it is all done by the Flyer. Even after going through all of this, I still had a color problem. The second time I recorded the video clip it was fine. Because most of my problems seem to deal with video quality, I really believe that something is defective with one of the components in my system. I don't think there is much more I can do with what I have. The dealer or NewTek are going to have to replace whatever is bad. Thanks for your suggestion. Fred
#99014From: henry tellerJan 15, 1995 10:16 PM
Fred – Have you run Flyer Calibration. It's a program in the program drawer of the Newtek directory. I was getting clips running B/W or color, or color shifted, until I ran that program. It recommends you run AUTO HUE first, which sounds like the one you have run. Hope that helps. Hank Videology, Inc Where you get all the P.O.M.P. under all circumstances.
#98978From: henry tellerJan 15, 1995 4:12 PM
PMFJI – Had a smiliar problem with color. Newtek suggested I run the Flyer Calibration program (which also suggests you run Auto Hue). It is located in the Newtek drawer under the programs folder. It solved my problem and I didn't have to rerecord the clips.
#98997From: Fred BerneyJan 15, 1995 6:43 PM
Yep, I found the calibration and Auto HUE. Ran them both. The color problem only happened once. It happened to several clips, but only once. I didn't have a chance to do any work on the system today, so I don't know how good the calibration and Auto Hue did. I'll get back to it tomorrow. Fred