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#Text AbasiC files-DL7

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#42189From: Betty KnightNov 16, 1985 3:10 PM
Dear Everyone, It has been brought to our attention by our Members that quite a few of the AbasiC Text files in DL7 here have been truncated and hence incomplete. We also believe that perhaps the Terminal Program being used to upload these files is at fault. These files "read" fine and the format is good, it is just that the logical end of the program seems to be truncated. Thus, we are moving all Text AbasiC files to a special "holding" DL so that we can carefully check these files before moving them back to DL7. We would appreciate any additional information any of you can give us on this problem. Also all information on the "Maxicomm" Terminal program would be appreciated. We hope you will bear with us as we are working to correct this situation. Thank you all for sharing. Sincerely, Sysop/Betty Knight 76703,4037 *** There are replies: 42198, 42215, 42220 Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n
#42198From: Larry MillerNov 16, 1985 3:57 PM
Betty, Not everyone is having trouble with the files; I just re-read the one I had uploaded and it is all there. I think taking them off the DL is a BAD idea. They are just text and can be READ, you don't have to DOWnload them. The Maxicomm program (I don't use it) has an acknowledged bug in the first 100 or so copies. Owners of Vers 1.00 can get a free replacement (1.02) that has been fixed. (See the messages on PCS-44). Yrs truly, &c -Larry Miller- Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n
#42215From: Rick SchaefferNov 16, 1985 9:00 PM
I'm not so sure that's a good idea, Betty! I've downloaded several of the basic programs with no problems. I'm not using MAXICOM though…my procedure is to download to my Z100 and then transfer to the Amiga via a serial lash-up I've got working. I've gotta believe that the problem is with Maxicom both on sending AND receiving. Another answer (the light dawns!) might be that the programs being downloaded by Maxicom were set up for non-amiga machines! For instance, files sent down by XMODEM on an IBM or MSDOS machine are going to have BOTH carriage return AND line feed in them. The Amiga wants only line feed! (Amiga is similar to Unix in this respect). That would explain why downloading through a capture buffer as suggested by another message works! The program receives carriage returns—and changes each one to a line feed. I'm SURE thats the problem! I have a filter program written in Abasic which will correct the situation. In the meantime…one of the folks who downloaded one of the basic programs with Maxicomm could bring up CLI and do the following: (I'll use SKPAD.BAS as an example) type skpad.bas opt h This will list the file which was downloaded in both hex and ascii. Examine the end of a line. If you see BOTH '0C' AND '0A' (or '0C' only) then the problem is as I have described. Rick Schaeffer *** There is a reply: 42244 Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n
#42244From: John c RussellNov 17, 1985 10:22 AM
Rick, Jack here I've been experiencing many problems with maxicomm also. If you know what's up please tell us. I've got a revised version of skpad.bas to send and it just won't go. Suggestions? *** There is a reply: 42249 Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n
#42249From: Rick SchaefferNov 17, 1985 11:52 AM
Jack, I'm assuming that you are the author of "JPAD.BAS" which I tried to download last nite. It was indeed truncated. I'm pretty sure the problem is with line termination. The Amiga, like Unix, uses a single Line Feed character as line terminator and unless some action is taken by Maxicomm in uploading it, I doubt if that would be palatable to CIS in a text file. I'm checking into it now and will post a message if I find anything out. In the meantime, is there any way you can send the file with NO protocol? That might just work. A good idea might be to give me a call at home or leave me your home phone number and I'll call you. What we'll do is upload your program directly into my Z100…where I can use a debugger to see if what I suspect about line termination is true. My home number is (509) 922-5261. Rick Schaeffer Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n
#42324From: John c RussellNov 18, 1985 10:37 PM
Rick I'd love to call when I hang up I'll call the operator and find out where you live, if it's still early there I'll call. In the meantime Maxi-corp has told me to send them my disk back and they'll provide me with the latest update. It seems there is a bug in this program. Bye and thanks for the reply. Jack / /
#42327From: Rick SchaefferNov 19, 1985 12:05 AM
John…the phone number I gave you was for my modem…which I normally don't have a phone hooked to. What we should do is schedule a time for the call. I'm in the Pacific Time Zone (Spokane, Wa.) and am usually home by 7pm pst. Tuesday night about then looks pretty good for me so I will have the phone hooked to that line. Thurs is the next good night for me. Rick Schaeffer
#42372From: John c RussellNov 20, 1985 9:16 AM
Rick… Thur. night it is then. I'll call a little after 7pm pst. I live in so Cal. (L.A.). Talk to you then. Jack
#42220From: James PowellNov 16, 1985 10:15 PM
It's easy to check for file truncation/funny lines in ABasiC. All that is needed it to put them in the Amiga ABasiC and try to run them. If there are any errors, omissions of serious import then ABasiC will print an error message and state that the program will not run. Hope this helps. james powell Enter command, N for next message or <CR> for menu : n