#Amiga 1000 to 2000
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This is probably an old topic, but I just received a thing from Commodore
offering me a chance to upgrade my Amiga 1000 to a 2000 (at a $1000 trade-in).
This brings up quite a few questions:
1) How much is it *actually* gonna cost? (ie. what's the average street
price…)
2) What, if any, are the disadvantages to this? (The advantages I am already
aware of…)
3) Anyone know of a Commodore dealer in the Phila. area carrying the 2000? The
only dealers I've run into recently are Electronic's Boutique, which only sells
500's…
–>Steve Bennett
Steven,
The disadvantage is that you still have to shell out $1000 to get the
A2000. Other than that….the A2000 will not accept most add on devices
designed for the A1000 except you will be able to use any external drives,
modems, printers and that sort of stuff. But not any of the side attached RAM
add-ons, no GenLock, etc.
No matter what the street price….you'll probably end up paying the
full $1000 + A1000 to get the trade in deal. It has to do with the wholesale
price of the A2000 and the way CBM is handling the dealer rebates.
I'm not sure on any Philadelphia dealers….humm, West Chester is only
about 30 miles outside Philadelphia….I wonder if CBM has a company store?
Don
CBM does *not* have a company store… It's a real hassle… (I also simply do
not understand why, when the company is only 30 miles away from me, this
particular area always seems to be thre LAST area to get things and the like…
As for the disadvantages… Well, since I *have* no add ons like that (with
the exception of the 256K internal RAM expansion…) it really isn't much of a
disadvantage as far as I'm concerned. The $1000 price tag is the only thing
you mentioned which concerns me… Now I have to decide if getting a newer
machine with a bunch of slots and an extra 512K of ram is worth the price…
Anyone know what ASDG's 1000 to 2000 compatible card cage is gonna go for?
–>Steve Bennett
Steve, I think 2000 and 1 will be around $799. Marlene
Don,
My computer dealer is selling BridgeCards for one penny as part of
the A1000+$1000=B2000 deal, so that's a point to consider if someone
needs or wants IBM-compatibility…and happens to live in the Detroit
area. Now, if they only had some B2000s to sell…. I understand that
Commodore has fired its 2000 production manager for some reason related
to the lack of 2000s on the market.
Also, since my dealer announced its BridgeCard-for-a-Penny deal after
I traded up, I've got a $500 credit toward the purchase of _any_ item in
the store. Not a bad deal at all.
Dave
David,
You can get the A1000+$1000.01 and get both an A2000 and a bridgecard!
That's a darn good deal…so good in fact, that unless your dealer can sell the
used A1000 for about $800…he may be losing money on the deal…but what the
heck…it's his store and he can charge what he wants.
Don
Don,
Yeah, it is a darn good deal. Since I'm not restricted to getting a
BridgeCard, I plan to apply the $500 credit toward a hard-drive and/or
HD controller. Perhaps my dealer is losing money in the short run (tho
I don't know this for a fact), but they're making a lot of loyal, happy
customers (like me) into _very_ loyal, _very_ happy ones. In the long
run, that can only be a good thing.
Dave
Please tell me more about this fantastic deal!!
Barry
Barry,
The deal with my computer dealer is that if you give them your A1000
and $1000.01, they give you an A2000 and a BridgeCard. This offer lasts
until Commodore's "A1000+$1000=A2000" promotion ends…November 30th, I
think. However, they've run out of A2000s (like everyone else, it
seems), so I assume they're just taking orders or giving rainchecks or
whatever right now. I don't know if other dealers are making similar
offers, or if this is unique to my dealer.
Commodore really makes me laugh. They're finally advertising, and
they have a good A2000 upgrade deal, but they forgot one thing: you
gotta _make_ the #$%^& computers before you can _sell_ 'em! 8^)
Dave
barry,
Don't worry, that is the healthiest position for them to be in, having
completely blown the forcasts in terms of the number of machines they expected
to sell. If you blow a forcast that badly, it's best to blow it the way they
did, rather than making too many. Think about it… so much in demand that you
have to go on a waiting list.
Regards, Larry.
Larry,
While generaly it's somewhat ok to underestimate demand….in this
case…it's more than underestimate….it's they flat didn't even come close.
The A2000 has been available for about a month…and it's out of stock almost
everywhere. This is the worst possible time for that to have happened. A new
machine, Christmas selling season comming (here) and NO stock.
If CBM doesn't get A2000's in those stores in a hurry, I'm afraid that
some folks will say, "Well, I would have gotten an A2000, but couldn't wait any
longer so got a brand x instead."
My local dealer had 32 of them…and they are all gone.
Don
He had more than 32 (44 I think). But you're right — all gone with no new
ones expected anytime soon.
Also, on Saturday, I called every Amiga dealer in the Denver/Boulder area. No
one had any 2000s left.
Don — you didn't expect CBM to _understand_ their market, did you? <grin>
–Ben–
Ben,
No…I honestly didn't expect them to fully understand the market…
but then I also didn't expect them to underestimate it as badly as they
apparently did either.
It could have been a very happy Christmas for the marketing and
production types at C-A….it's beginning to look like it's going to be a
rather bleak one thou. At least it appears there are sufficient stocks of the
A500 for the time being and they are also selling quite well.
Don
Well, _I_ have faith in CBM. They haven't done anything right since they bought
the Amiga… they came very close with the A500, though the slot is on the
wrong side, the power supply stinks, and it's not cheap enough, and 1 meg is
still a low limit (Why is putting an address line on an edge connector such a
big leap? <clenching fists>) At least, as you say, there are enough A500's for
now. I wish I ran CBM. Oh, boy, do I wish that. I'd do it for food & board…
–Ben–
"I'd do it for food & board…"
<Chuckle> Ben, it's not that I'm accusing you of being fat or anything… but
how much do you weigh? I just ask because you must eat a LOT. You're willing
to work for food and board? "Board" _IS_ food. I assume you meant bed and
board or room and board? 8)
Rick
Larry,
Barry?? Ahem…. <Grin>
I know that the guys at my dealer are not one bit happy about the
shortage of 2000s. They're losing sales because of it…not everyone is
patient enough to have their name put on a waiting list.
In all seriousness, Commodore should be running the A2000 production
line(s) 24 hours a day, cranking out as many of 'em as they can as fast
as they can. My dealer has already sold over 150 A2000s, and could
probably sell another 100 in the next few weeks if they were available
to sell. It ain't a good situation to be in.
Dave
Dave,
Barry?
I still say that it's prefereable to having them rot on the shelves due to
lack of interest by the public. They will be here in time for Christmas. If
they aren't, then indeed it will be sad.
I think the main reason they underestimate the demand for the 2000 is that
they listened to all the people who said they wouldn't upgrade. An awful lot of
those same people are currently running on a 2000.
Regards, Larry.
Larry,
Yeah, I suppose you're right to a degree. But CBM did fire a pro-
duction manager, which indicates, I think, that something more severe
than an underestimation occured.
Yup, _I_ was one of those folks who said they wouldn't upgrade. Now
I'm very glad that I did…early.
Dave
So it's _your_ fault! <grin>
Hope they get the machines rolling soon.
Regards, Larry.
Larry,
Looks like the machines _are_ rolling now. According to one of the
fellows at my computer dealer, Commodore is scheduled to ship 8000 Amiga
2000s sometime next week. CBM has 3000 units back-ordered, so this will
put them ahead by 5000. Hope it's true.
Dave
Not knowing what side of phila. you are on, I bought my 2000 at MDI in East
Windsor, NJ.
A bit too far from me… I'm in the northern suburbs (Eastern Montgomery
County)… That makes the second place I've heard of in New Jersey, and none
in my area. Period. (One would think you'd be able to buy Amiga's within 30
miles of Commodore HQ, wouldn't you? <grrrrr>)
–>Steve Bennett
Steven,
If you're in Eastern Montgomery County…I've heard of a store in King
of Prussia Plaza (or that area) that reportedly was selling the Amiga. I don't
live there (I used to many years ago) but seem to recall someone here talking
about such a store…you might check it out.
Discovery Software in Wyndmoor (242-4666) may also be able to assist
you since they write Amiga software.
Don
There *was* a dealer there who sold the 1000 when it first came out, but they
dropped it when Commodore changed their pricing the first time… The only
dealers there now are Games & Gadgets and Electronics Boutique, who only carry
the 500…
–>Steve Bennett
Steve,
I just got an ad in the mail yesterday from CBM (don't have it with me
now) with an 800 # you can call to locate the nearest dealer. I'll try to
remember to leave you another message with that number when I get home.
Don
Steven,
The 800# is:
1-800-87-AMIGA
They are supposed to have a list of all dealer's who are carrying the
A2000 and should be able to find the closest dealer for you.
Don
Too late! <grin> I asked commodore via their hotline, and they redirected me
to AB&T, the local Amiga 2000 distributor, who told me (almost exactly 10
minutes ago…) where the closest A2000 dealer was… (But I'll keep the 800
number as a reference, just in case…) Thanks anyway…
–>Steve Bennett