CompuServe Thread

#eXternal

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#13122From: eli tishbergNov 10, 1989 8:53 PM
I too hnave a problem with the eXternal command. I load in the object (using eXternal, of course!) and make some changes to the object (ie. color reflection etc) then I close the attributes requester and go to re-save the object. The screen flashes BUSY for about a half -second and everything seems ok.then I Delete the object and try to load it ihn again (using eXternal). I get an error message about some 'INFINITE RECURSION' in the object and the object WILL NOT LOAD> It has gone bye-bye. If I look in the directory it came from (Usually I keep it in the CEL dir) The file is there but instead of being 17k long it is now 128 and if I try to read the file all I get is: FORM What (if anything am I doing wrong ?? I am using a 2000 with a 2620 (2 megs) and a HardFrame controller. Also have the new Agnes chip and a 2 meg (16-bit) board. Any Ideas??? thanx eli t
#13137From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Nov 11, 1989 8:59 AM
Eli, this is a known bug in Turbo. The external command has never worked to my satisfaction and it continues to have problems. When you save an object, immediately try to reload it to the screen. If it loads properly, just delete it again. If it doesn't load properly, try renaming it and saving your object again. Sometimes I have found that I have to exit the program before I will get the 'infinite recursion' message to go away.
#13138From: eli tishbergNov 11, 1989 10:23 AM
I have tried re-naming it, and also I run machII with Tsilver, that way I can press Amiga-M and push the silver screen to the back (even while in the object editor) and check the file length in the background. Well, at least this is an 'expected' problem, Is there anyother method you can offer ?? I mean, even with a HardDisk if I do an Overscan20 Interlace HAm image for 60 frames each CEL is 100 k or so !! thanx again for your quick reply… eli
#13139From: eli tishbergNov 11, 1989 10:51 AM
ok here's the thing… I just tried it again and it seems the problem lies in the SAVE command in the object editor. That is when the corruption occurs not whenI try to get the object back with external! I eem to have stumbled onto a workaround tho'… 1- USing eXternal load your object 2-Change any/all parameters in the object 3-exit the (key) celland go to the main screen 4-SAVE the 'changed' cell (even tho' there really is no change, as the change was to the eXternal object) 5-re-enter the cell and click on the object 6-SAVE the object, now the BUSY pointer stays up for a reaonable amount of time 7-delete and load (using eXternal) the modified object and voila! it work !! Like I said though it seems the problem happens when you AVE the object, not when you use the external thingy.. Lemme know if this works for you.. eli
#13163From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Nov 12, 1989 10:05 AM
Eli, I've encountered the problem both with saved and external objects. Like I said, the problem seems entirely random. You can tell with a hard drive though, because the drive light will flash far too briefly to have saved anything like an object.
#13282From: eli tishbergNov 16, 1989 10:32 PM
rick, alas…you are correct. It Is entirely random (sigh) well, when I have gotten the savew to work and have reloaded the object with external it seems that my animation path (tho still there in STORY) don't work. Only when I waste the disk pace with full objects in each frame (about 3 megs worth!!) then the story works !! What about the new designer and renderer pgms? How do they work that way ?? eli
#13305From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Nov 17, 1989 8:27 PM
Your path should still function correctly. You MUST save the object AFTER assigning it a story . Then when you reload it as an external object, it will follow the proper path. Don't know much about the new programs, but the bugs will be fixed. –Rick
#13162From: Stan Kalisher (Impulse)Nov 12, 1989 10:02 AM
Eli, in my experience the problem is entirely random, but I wouldn't abandon external files entirely because of it. Try quitting Silver, maybe even reboot. I can't tell you the exact sequence I've used, but I do get the external files to load and save correctly. If the save didn't happen properly you'll know it right away.