Commodore Flicker-Fixer
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Can anyone give me some information about the Flicker-Fixer card for the
2000 Commodore is supposedly coming out with? When will it be available?
How does it compare, as to price and performance to Microway's?
Thanks.
Don
Don –
I picked this info off of Usenet a few days ago. Hope it answers your
questions.
>From: hood@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Hood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: FlickerFixer
Message-ID: <15369@cbmvax.commodore.com>
Date: 24 Oct 90 15:18:51 GMT
References: <3363@orbit.cts.com>
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
In article <3363@orbit.cts.com> koleman@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kurt Koller)
writes:
>
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>I have an Amiga 2500/30 with lots of stuuf. I did a PAL/NTSC hack to it
about
>a year ago, and haven't taken the thing out of PAL but once. I am
>wondering…
>
>The MicroWay Flickerfixer: Will it work in both PAL/NTSC modes? The 2.0
>operating system supports switching between the two, but will the
flickerfixer
>adjust??????
>
No the flickerfixer will not adjust because their are two different
MicroWay products, one for NTSC machines and another for PAL machines.
The Commodore A2320 Display Enhancer card WILL automatically adjust to
either PAL or NTSC display mode and give you severe overscan support in
both modes i.e. 768×489 in NTSC mode and 768×576 in PAL mode (this is much
more than the MicroWay product). The A2320 will also automatically work
with the new ECS productivity modes available with the ECS chipset and
AmigaDos 2.0 by bypassing the video signal directly to the multiscan
monitor connected to the A2320's DB15 pin connector. Also, the A2320 does
a special trick called `scan-doubling' when in the x200/256 line
non-interlaced display modes to elimate motion artifacts that would be
present if the product where to de-interlace all the time – a real plus
with those games that run in the non-interlace display modes!
The A2320 is available from Commodore at a suggested list price of $299 as
opposed to the MicroWay Flickerfixer which is listing for $499.
I hope this helps!
Scott Hood
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— -Scott Hood, Hardware Design Engineer (A3000 Crew), Commodore-Amiga,
Inc.
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Jeff Schweiger
Jeff, Thanks for the useful information. Now all I have to do is find a
dealer who's heard of it! So far, the local dealers here in the Bay Area
have professed ingnorance of this product. Do have any idea when it will
be available?
Don
Don –
It's supposedly being shipped. I've seen others mentionned that they have
gotten it through their dealers. I have gotten the impression that the
shipments have just started so that they may still be enroute. The dealers
should have gotten literature on it though. Have you checked with HT
Electronics in Sunnyvale? I believe that they have a larger stock than the
two dealers closer to me (Computer Room in Scotts Valley, and Dataphile in
Watsonville).
Jeff Schweiger
Jeff,
HT was the first dealer I checked. Maybe I asked the wrong person, but he
professed complete ignorance of the product. The same goes for the other
Amiga dealer in the area, Computer Spectrum in Burlingame. I didn't try Go
Amigo in Redwood City, but I guess I might. I'll probably check back to HT
and be more persistent. Thanks.
Don
Don,
Have you talked to the folks at Winner's Circle. I haven't been in the
Bay Area for a while but they were the best source of Amiga info I found. I
believe they are on Telegraph in Berzerkly.
Steve Steve Grandona
Don:
I switched from a Flickerfixer to the CBM 2320 Display Enhancer board,
and pricewise it's cheaper, and it does more. First off, it automatically
detects what mode you're in and changes the way it works to accomodate the
mode. Along with deinterlacing an interlaced screen, it does something
called scan doubling rather than deinterlacing a non-interlaced screen, and
I think it looks slightly nicer than the non-interlaced screens did with
the flickerfixer. Also when 2.0 is available it will automatically detect
productivity mode, and passes thru the video signal whereas with the
FlickerFixer, you MUST switch to the 23 pin connector to use the screen. It
(the 2320) also has a pass thru switch, so you can shut off the board, and
not have to swap cables to still have video.
-Mike Schiller
In sunny Fort Lauderdale
Mike, Thanks for the info. I'm just about convinced now to go with the
2320 if I can just find one! Apparently this product has yet to reach the
West Coast. It shouldn't be too long though, I hope, before it arrives
here.
Don
I'm surprised that you folks in the States don't have them yet. I've had
one in my Amiga 2500/020 for about two months now. I got one through my
dealer here in Edmonton, Alberta (that's in Canuck land). They had been
getting them for about two weeks before I got mine. It's a definite plus
being able to work in ProPage and NO T go bug-eyed in interlace mode… 🙂
If you need any more techie specs on it, ask away, as I've got the full
specs on it in its manual.
Ted
Thanks for the reply. I think I've gotten some pretty good info from some
other people here already. It sounds like what I'm looking for, with some
definite advantages over the Microways FlickerFixer.
Don
> Do ya need to use a multisynch monitor with it?
And if so, which one performs best under the most circumstances?