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#ProWrite vs. excellence!

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#5003From: Charles BlaquiereOct 31, 1990 3:27 PM
I'll be buying an A3000 and DeskJet 500 next month, and would like some advice on which word processor will give me the most flexibility and quality on the DJ500. So far ProWrite and excellence! seem the best programs, but the reviews don't go into much depth. Any thoughts? Blaq!
#5056From: New Horizons SoftwareNov 1, 1990 10:50 AM
Charles, For both graphics and character based printing, ProWrite gives you more much more flexibility than excellence. For graphics printing, with ProWrite you can specify arbitrary enlargements or reductions, which lets you do things like print using double (or more) size fonts at 1/2 size (or less) for exceptional output using bitmap fonts. For character printing, ProWrite lets you mix Pica, Elite, Condensed, and wide printer fonts on the same page, whereas excellence limits you to a single pitch for the entire document. If you have any questions about ProWrite, we have a support section in the AMIGAVENDOR forum. Feel free to ask any questions. James Bayless New Horizons Software, Inc.
#5142From: Ron LegroNov 2, 1990 4:48 PM
I've got excellence! 2.0 at home (just out) and I'm fairly happy with it. Only thing it won't do is wrap text around graphics. Other than that, it can't be beat for writing aids: good spell-checker, built-in thesaurus AND built-in grammar checker. New multi-font capabilities in 2.0, and there are utilities to move stuff over to Postscript and to make use of metric fonts through a conversion utility. I also use Professional Page and the two marry very well. ProWrite I am not familiar with but also gets glowing reviews.
#5321From: Charles BlaquiereNov 5, 1990 11:15 AM
Hmmmm. I'm having a real hard time figuring out which word processor to buy. Especially since, although I haven't mentioned it, WordPerfect is also in the picture; I know it well from the PC side and love the way it lets me edit files with ease. The biggest problem is, I'll be buying a Deskjet 500 and it seems like none of the 3 word processors supports it that well. My guess is WordPerfect will give me the most support since I just have to download the new drivers from WPSGB here on CIS, and it will be able to deal with the Deskjet's proportional fonts — an important point for me. I'd rather have great fonts on paper even if I don't see those fonts onscreen. Of course, WYSIWYG is great too, especially if you can print in 24-pin mode. Do excellence or ProWrite print out in 24-pin mode, and does the DeskJet emulate 24-pin mode with the Epson cart? I guess the main problem is, I'd like to have good font support without having to invest in a desktop publishing program. Blaq!
#5334From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 5, 1990 5:01 PM
Excuse me for interupting but aren't you also on the Atari 8-bit forum?
#5811From: Charles BlaquiereNov 11, 1990 10:49 AM
Leslie, yeppers! I chose the 8-bit Atari in the early 80's because they had the most interesting graphics hardware, and I'm now moving on to the Amiga for the exact same reason. Blaq! (sound familiar?)
#5926From: Bruce PhillipsNov 12, 1990 12:25 AM
So, what do you think of the Amiga and PC's? Like you I got an Atari (first an 800, then a 130XE) because of their, then, advanced graphics. Given the state of that market I'm thinking of an Amiga or, having just seen VGA graphis on a 386 machine, maybe a PC clone. Any thoughts? Best – Bruce P.
#6267From: Charles BlaquiereNov 15, 1990 10:41 PM
the answer was easier a year or two ago: Amiga all the way. These days, however, all the cheap PC's have VGA capabilities which make HAM mode almost look like our beloved 130XE. They all have speedy 386 chips and cheap hard disks, and enough software to cover half the continent. But if graphics is what you want, I believe the Amiga still holds a slight edge. 3-D programs such as Imagine offer IFF brush wrapping, texture mapping, even bump mapping for Heaven's sake! The machine is well-integrated, the special chips still provide a performance edge and above all, the Amiga has years of multitasking behind it. If I had to wait another year, my decision might be different; but at this point, I'm buying an Amiga. P.S. you want VGA graphics _and_ a blitter? Look into the HAM-E. It provides high-quality graphics that come straight from the normal sreen memory, so full-speed animation is supported. It's one way for your Amiga to keep its edge.
#6499From: Bruce PhillipsNov 18, 1990 8:29 PM
Many Thanks. Would that I had the $$$ to buy both. I caught Computer Cronicles today, about the Amiga 3000. It looks like the more "fun" machine – you know, where you feel that whatever you want to do with it, the computer will let you do it. The IBM is good, but always leaves me feeling a little "flat", at least before VGA. I haven't done anything with a 386 or better with VGA so I don't know if that would still hold true. Best – Bruce P.
#5976From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 12, 1990 8:17 PM
Yes! I remember you now! Which Amiga did you buy? (Your reasoning for buying an Amiga was the same as mine. I still love my Atari 8-bit but the Amy is also something special.) One suggestion: Download WHAP! the CI$ terminal program. It will make life on ComupServe easier and cheaper!
#6268From: Charles BlaquiereNov 15, 1990 10:41 PM
Leslie, I haven't bought an Amiga yet; next month is when I'll take the plunge. And what a plunge it will be! I broke down and decided to get an A3000. Some giant leap from the ole 8-bit, huh? 🙂 Blaq!
#6326From: Leslie T. BartiromoNov 16, 1990 9:03 PM
You certainly aren't doing this half hearted are you?!! <g> If you buy any games for an A3000 try before you buy! Some games use short cuts and won't run properly with a computer usig a 68030 CPU.
#5439From: Steven D. KapplinNov 6, 1990 9:42 PM
The DeskJet is supported. AmigaDos 1.3 has a DeskJet driver and there are several PD and a commercial driver for DeskJet Plus which will also work with the 500.
#5812From: Charles BlaquiereNov 11, 1990 10:50 AM
Steven, the DeskJet drivers you refer to will basically give me screen-resolution graphic dumps, no? What I meant was more along the lines of a program which knows about the DeskJet's internal fonts and uses them to their full extent. For example, WprdPerfect 5.0 on the PC knows about the LaserJet's various font cartridges, its font width tables etc. so even though you don't see the actual font onscreen, text placement and line breaks will be the same as on the printed page. The document will print out using the 300 DPI cartridge fonts. I'm hoping for that kind of support for the Deskjet. Of course, if the word processor also excels at mixing bitmap fonts and graphics, so much the better. <wink> Blaq!
#5842From: Steven D. KapplinNov 11, 1990 4:52 PM
Charles, There's a commercial driver which, I believe, will do that. I cannot recall the name, but they have a PD version (doesn't do that) called BetterDJ. I think the company is Creative Solutions, or some such thing, but if you check in the PD file, their name and address is provided. I believe they have several other products for the HP printers. As far as I'm aware, none of the PD drivers can select internal fonts other than whatever is default from the printer's keyboard. The commercial driver also boasts the ability to select from softfonts, as well.
#5250From: Wayne ColeNov 4, 1990 2:16 AM
Charles, re msg 5056, I have excellence! 2.0 and I believe it can chang fonts including point size and line spacing on a paragraph by paragraph basis, not only for the entire document. Note that paragraphs are bouneded by linefeeds (or carriage returns) and thus could acutally be used to set fonts line by line. wmc