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#ATonce 286 card ?

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#6043From: Reinhardt MichelsNov 13, 1990 2:48 PM
{ATonce The {{ATonce board fits on the 68K processor in an A500. It presently will not work with a 1000 (we are looking into an adapte{r). The 2000 adapter will be available in January and will allow use of the PC slots for VGA boards etc! It will also have a 80287 socket on it.{ The A500 product will be available from Dec 1{. I will an{t(swer aw3ny d{etailed techniw3cal questions or send you info if you mail me. There are also plans to provide a special adapter for the A3000.{{{_ {R{eihardt, VORTEX
#6065From: Ethan SolomitaNov 13, 1990 8:22 PM
PLEASE DO make the A3000 adapter! — Ethan
#6071From: Joe KuzmaNov 13, 1990 9:08 PM
Looks as if you are plauged with line noise. I have a question concerning your ATONCE board. Since it plugs into the 68000 slot – will this work in conjunction with a CSA Mega-Midget Racer 68030 board? The 030 board has a slot for the 68000 to switch between the 030 and the 68000 CPU via software-switch.
#6157From: John ParkerNov 14, 1990 7:19 PM
Hear, Hear ! I second that !
#6165From: Mike SchillerNov 14, 1990 9:21 PM
Reinhardt: Will the A2000 version of the ATonce board be compatible with the 2630 card? according to your ad in AmigaWorld it sounds like it uses the same connector as the 2630, is this a misprint? Is there any reason it can't be used in a 2000 the same as in a 500? Is the adapter board just to allow use of the PC slots? Any info you can give me would be appreciated. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#6176From: Frank Lazar-ImagenieNov 14, 1990 11:53 PM
Also consider for 2000 and 3000 users a true Bridgeboard clone which would utilise the PC slots. With a ribbon cable, you could still use 68000 access. FL
#6407From: Black Belt SystemsNov 17, 1990 9:56 PM
How about an adaptor for a 2500 series machine? I'd *love* to trash my bridgeboard… need them slotz! <grin> BBS->Williams.Ben[AA7AS]
#6455From: Frank Lazar-ImagenieNov 18, 1990 2:42 PM
I'd much rather see a true Bridgeboard clone which supports Janus and PC Slots.
#6614From: James CoreyNov 19, 1990 11:02 PM
I have a friend with an Amiga500 that would like to run MSDOS WordPerfect on it, and since I "work with computers", I should be able to find out how, right? The 500 has 2 3.5" floppies and about 350(?)K showing as free. Would your board allow MSDOS to be run? Any info would be great. Thanks.
#7117From: Reinhardt MichelsNov 26, 1990 4:12 PM
ATonce is designed mainly for the A500 as an inexpensive yet powerful PC emulator. While the PC bridgeboards from Commodore do offer some advantages they cannot be used with the A500. ATonce is therefore principally an A500 product, although there will be an adapter for the A2000 that will allow it to behave like a bridgeboard. This should come after Christmas. The A3000 and the A1000 are currently not supported. For more info MAIL 100016,2545 Reinhardt, VORTEX
#7142From: Black Belt SystemsNov 26, 1990 8:16 PM
When can we buy this marvelous little gadget? I'm ready now. Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#7228From: Reinhardt MichelsNov 27, 1990 2:23 PM
Ben, Be patient….we should have it available in US stores during the first two weeks of December. It has been available in Europe for some weeks now and we hope that the US version will be well tested and proven in the field. Reinhardt, VORTEX
#7235From: Don Curtis/SYSOPNov 27, 1990 4:36 PM
Reinhardt, Has the unit been FCC approved already?? Don
#7249From: Black Belt SystemsNov 27, 1990 7:21 PM
I'm patient already. :^) Good to hear they are "out there". Love to hear more about it – is it true that it will run as a well behaved task in it's own window? Can you do a CGA screen? How about processor loading on the AMiga side during gfx ops? I presure er, presume that it is not on the chip bus, and so that gfx emulation is quite different from the "bridge"? Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#7250From: Black Belt SystemsNov 27, 1990 7:23 PM
By the way, Reinhardt – the machine I want ot install this in is a PAL a500 – does that make any difference? Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#7292From: Wayne ColeNov 28, 1990 1:27 AM
Ben, I believe that if you are planning to use it in a 2000 you will have to remove or plan never to use the CPU slot as the "adaptor" fo the ATonce will use that slot. wmc
#7323From: Black Belt SystemsNov 28, 1990 7:25 AM
Nope – in a PAL a500 is where I want to put it. Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#7329From: Mike SchillerNov 28, 1990 8:17 AM
Wayne: I was told in Email from the ATonce people that they're rethinking their 2000 product, and it will probably be a board that fits where a bridgeboard would fit, but have the same functionality as their A500 unit. I assume by that that the board would still use Amiga ram rather than totally separate ram, and still allow the use of more memory than 640K as extended (or is it expanded??) memory on the PC side. They further said the 2000 board would probably have a socket for a math coprocessor as well. They (he) will have more details after the first of the year. I'm not sure, but from the sound of it, the 2000 unit will be all contained on the one card, and not require replacing the 68000, although I don't know for sure. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#7428From: Wayne ColeNov 29, 1990 2:59 AM
Mike, Your description of the A2000 version of the ATonce is much more appealing. Did they say anything about price? wmc
#7453From: Mike SchillerNov 29, 1990 4:32 PM
Wayne: No. I suspect that will be in the "more info to follow after the first of the year" that they mentioned to me. -Mike Schiller In sunny Fort Lauderdale
#7655From: Paul MacDonaldDec 1, 1990 4:52 PM
$398 list. Cheers, Paul (WA1OMM)
#7498From: Ethan SolomitaNov 30, 1990 12:16 AM
The advantage to using a card is that it'll probably work with the A3000, unless it relies upon some timing stuff it shouldn't. — Ethan
#7535From: paul ciminoNov 30, 1990 9:19 AM
The add I saw said $399. It also implied that the A2000 version used a special plug to replace the 68000 on the motherboard, since the 68000 is on the card already. They might need a different version for the 3000. I wonder if it'll work with the 2500 ?
#7656From: Paul MacDonaldDec 1, 1990 4:53 PM
Not really a special plug, merely a 68000 mounted upside down on the bottom of the circuit board! Cheers, Paul (WA1OMM)
#7666From: Marion J DelandDec 1, 1990 7:07 PM
Ethan … I dropped in in the middle of this, but if you're still talking about the ATonce card, the info says it won't work with the A1000 or the A3000. Marion
#7152From: Ethan SolomitaNov 26, 1990 9:52 PM
Reinhardt, I think you are limiting yourself if you push the ATonce as an A500 product, and here is why: Most Amiga owners would like IBM compatibility if the price is right. Commodore price isn't. The 2088 is to slow and the 2286 costs WAY to much, over $1,000. The 2286 also takes up TWO slots because it was designed so badly. If they could get a 9.xxMHz whatever it is you use with support for XT/AT slots without taking up any slots and for only $400 street price, they'd buy it. I know I would. Especially if it would support a hard drive and CGA and any addon video cards. However I have an A3000. How difficult would it be to come up with a 68030 adaptor? — Ethan
#7229From: Reinhardt MichelsNov 27, 1990 2:27 PM
The problem is one of supply and demand. In order to make ATonce work with an 030 we need to make some significant cahanges, maybe even the ASIC chip. The whole matter is currently under debate and if there is a way or a demand or preferably both I am sure that our engineeers can come up with something. Do you know how many A3000'ds there are in the US? Reinhardt, VORTEX
#7238From: Ethan SolomitaNov 27, 1990 4:56 PM
The A3000's are apparently doing quite well. The fall quarterly report from Commodore showed a 20% increase in Amiga sales, I believe the number was, over the prior year quarter. that can only be accounted for by the A3000. I guess it is taking a chance, but you should consider that the A3000 is the high-end future of the Amiga. — Ethan