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Bridgeboard

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#37720From: chuck mooreOct 20, 1991 3:18 PM
I'm interested in buying a Bridgeboard to develop Ada programs. Which is better, faster? The Atonce or the Amiga bridgeboards? I would be using an Amiga 2000 running Workbench 1.2. I also have a GVP harddrive which I would like to partition and use. Are there any potential hardware interface problems? One last question: what is this Connections newsletter?
#38146From: Gayle Lee FairlessOct 25, 1991 12:16 AM
Chuck, Why do you want to use a bridgeboard to develop Ada? I have an XT BB with an AST SixPakPlus from Bulldog Computers in Georgia (mailorder) and a Rambank by Diamond Flower Electric Instrument Co. These increase my conventional memory to 640K and gives me expanded memory. The Rambank is sold by Altex Electronics, Inc. 1(800)531-5369 as a Memo-2000X. Unless you just don't want to buy an IBM clone and got the bridgeboard at a low price, it might be more cost effective just to buy an IBM clone. 386 systems can be had for a good price. I haven't had any experience with the ATOnce arrangement. Hope this helps! Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless'
#38175From: Paul ToalOct 25, 1991 2:48 AM
What is the Rnk by Diamond Flower Electric? Just now setting up a BB and still not sure which way is up. Since You've done it already, could you please tell me how you got Jlink to work. I added the line DEVICE=JDISK.SYS in config.sys but get 'can't find file'. When I add the line in the docs "C:\janus\jdisk.device", it still can't find the file. I don't have a "C:", and can't make one till I can JLINK, but can't Jlink to a "C:" until I have a C: . I'm dizzy. Can you help ? Thanx for any help' Paul –pt–not seattle– 😉
#38261From: David ArtOct 25, 1991 11:52 PM
Paul, I don't have my BB manual available to me right now, but it sounds like you're confusing setting up an MS-DOS partition on an Amiga HD and setting up an Amiga partition on a MS-DOS (i.e. BB side) HD. Check the manual to find which program to run in your Amiga's startup-sequence to start the PC hard drive emulation on the Amiga disk. There's also different ways to set things up depending on whether you want to boot from the Amgia side partition or not. I may be misinterpreting what you're trying to accomplish, so please feel free to clarify your objective. David
#38289From: Paul ToalOct 26, 1991 4:41 AM
David, I am trying to set up a MS-DOS partition on an Amiga HD. I am following the explicit directions in the manual. When I give it the neccesary command BB can't find a particular file (on c: drive) but I can have no c: drive till the command takes…catch 22. Bad Docs. Rookie User. I think I need to know how to use AmigaDos path command in MS-DOS. The needed file "MUST be in the root directory" but it wont fit! Paul –pt–not seattle– 😉
#38436From: Gayle Lee FairlessOct 27, 1991 6:02 PM
Paul, You have confused 2 different types of files. As you noted, it is not possible to create a Jlink virtual drive unless the bridgeboard is already booted. The Jlink virtual drives are a MSDOS or DRDOS device set up in your CONFIG.SYS file, more on this later. 'To set up a MS-DOS partition on an Amiga HD' is not necessary to setup a file to use as a C drive for the bridgeboard. What you can do is to partition your hard drive into more than one partition. You can then use one of those partitions exclusively for the special BB file by creating it in your special partition to the size of the partition (or smaller). However, you do not have to partition your Amiga Harddrive if you are reasonably certain you will not accidently delete the special BB file. On page 88, the A2286/A2088 Bridgeboard manual refers to this special BB file as 'dh0:fake_c'; however, you may call it any name acceptable to AmigaDOS that you like. You can also put it in a subdirectory. You do need to note the FULL PATHNAME. As the manual states you use a text editor such as ED to create a text file that must be named ABOOT.CTRL and must be placed in the SYS:PC/system subdirectory. This special BB file becomes your apparent C drive and IS NOT a Jlink virtual drive. You create the special BB file with the MAKEAB command and are prompted for the parameters that you wish to be emulated. You should calculate the number of heads, sectors/track, and the number of cylinders that you want on your special BB file or fake_c file. Remember, your special BB file or fake_c AmigaDOS file must have its complete pathname in the SYS:PC/system/ABOOT.CTRL text file. The program at SYS:pc/system/pcdisk can be run from your startup sequence. The PC/Services/TimeServ program can also be run if you plan to run atime on the bridgeboard to get the Amiga time and date.
#38437From: Gayle Lee FairlessOct 27, 1991 6:04 PM
Once you create this special BB file, it is possible to boot the bridgeboard (BB) with your system diskette in the A: drive. You should be able now to access the C: drive. I don't remember whether you have to reboot the Amiga. Anyway, you must now use FDISK to prepare the internal MSDOS parameters of your C: drive which is really a special Amiga DOS file whose pathname is already in ABOOT.CTRL. Once you have run FDISK and FORMAT with the /S key to setup the C: drive as a bootable drive according to instructions, you start transfering your files from your system diskettes to the C: drive. One of the lines in your CONFIG.SYS should be DEVICE=C:\JANUS\JDISK.SYS, assuming that you created a subdirectory JANUS in the root directory of your C: drive and copied the JANUS programs to this subdirectory. You put the atime.com and amouse.com programs in your autoexec.bat file. Of course, you also put amouse.drv in your config.sys file, assuming that you plan to use the Amiga mouse with the bridgeboard. If you've gotten a separate mouse and/or card for the bridgeboard, then of course, you would use its driver and program. I'm assuming that you are aware that the autoexec.bat and config.sys files should be in your C: root directory. When you are able to copy files to your C: drives, you need only to reboot the bridgeboard assuming you have already started the Amiga programs PCDISK and/or TIMESERV. Hope this gets you started. Now I have skipped over a bunch of stuff that you should get from your manuals. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless'
#38470From: Paul ToalOct 28, 1991 3:16 AM
Thanx Gayle, That was a very helpfu answer, I appreciate the effort very much. I was doing the right thing in the wrong order, you put me back on track. All is fine now! I am happpily auto-booting off of c: It took so long to get my BB up and running I don't remember why I bought it in the first place 🙂 . Can I ask what you use it for that can't be done our real machine. Any one else? I think many would be interested in what can be done with a Ami-BB combo. My first thought was OCR. Thanx again. Paul –pt–not seattle– 😉
#38557From: Betty Clay/SYSOPOct 28, 1991 9:53 PM
Paul, I use my bridgeboard for Roots3, a genealogy program that nothing on the Amiga can begin to touch in ability; for Quicken and TurboTax which likewise have no Amiga counterparts that have even half the capabilities. You are right that no one has offered OCR for the Amiga, but I'm told that one of the companies is working on it and should release it soon. That would be awfully nice to have! Betty
#38672From: Fred EdelkampOct 29, 1991 9:10 PM
I use my BB xt w/386 and Targa+ to lay Amiga animations over 24 bit targa graphics over live video. Try doing that on a Toaster! Fred E.
#38759From: Paul ToalOct 30, 1991 4:49 AM
Fred, what are you using to get the 386? I'll trade you my toaster for your targa plus 🙂 Paul –pt–not seattle– 😉
#39154From: Fred EdelkampNov 2, 1991 1:57 PM
Paul, You whould trade a Toaster for a Targa+. sounds like that may be workable whats the deal…. I'm using the SOTA 386si, cost about 300 to 400 but moves the XT up about 5 times i.e. 5.1 Norton, I just ordered 2meg of 32 bit ram for it so if you know anyone who is looking for a 2 meg ram card for thier XT let me Know. Fred E. (703)-799-3859
#38479From: RON TROYOct 28, 1991 6:41 AM
amouse.drv? Why? Ron
#38699From: Gayle Lee FairlessOct 29, 1991 10:35 PM
I think I meant amouse.com.
#38831From: RON TROYOct 30, 1991 7:38 PM
Ah. Ron
#38739From: Gayle Lee FairlessOct 29, 1991 11:48 PM
Ron, I guess I had something else on my mind when talking about amouse. Now I have amouse in my autoexec.bat to use amouse.com. And now that I think about it, the amouse.drv is for Windows, GEM, and other applications that take a mouse driver. See you later! Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless'
#38147From: David ArtOct 25, 1991 12:19 AM
Chuck, Do you have the Ada package available to you? Since most Ada packages are big $ purchases, it would probably be worth your while to do some testing on a BB or ATonce equiped Amiga before actually buying the hardware. The BB's are highly compatible clones and generally work well with programs that interface at the DOS level, _but_ not everything works on them. The major hardware caveats are that LPT1: and COM2: addresses and interrupts are dedicated to the janus chips/sw on the Commodore BB's. (I'll have to let somebody else address the ATonce.) David