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#41456From: Bill Hardman/UKNov 23, 1991 2:37 AM
I am completely new to the Amiga after several years on IBM, including Tapcis on CIS. So ignorant am I that the Amiga, with a KCS Board fitted, is now running as a PC and I am still on Tapcis. I must get it into native mode. What do I need? Is WHAP! the one for CIS? How do I get it and if I have to d/l in PC mode in the first instance can I get software (initially in PC 720k format) that can convert to Amiga disk format? I changed machines for the Amiga sound/MIDI/graphics and am entirely satisfied. Comms is never easy and that is the area giving me some trouble at the moment. At least I can still get on to CIS. Don#t suppose there are many UK Tapcis users on this particular forum! Thanks in advance, Bill Hardman
#41525From: Betty Clay/SYSOPNov 23, 1991 10:07 PM
You will find quite a few UK Whap! users on this forum, though. And some of them will help you get things set up properly to make it work right with the British telephone system. Whap! is the one you want. It is in AmigaVendor Forum, Library 9, WHP19G.LZH. I would recommend that you purchase a commercial program for your Amiga called CrossDOS. It will let your Amiga drives read and write MS-DOS disks just as easily as it does AMigaDOS disks. It mounts your drives for each format, and you give the drives different names to be used with the MS-DOS disks. The program suggests DI0, but I have used MF0 from the beginning on mine, and it works fine. If I want to read an MS-DOS disks, I give the command using MF0: for the drive name. If I want to read an AmigaDOS disk in that same drive, I use the same command, but use the name DF0: It works easly, flawlessly – just wonderful. And it costs very little for such a useful utility. I paid about $20 for mine at my local dealer. You would probably also enjoy BackTalk as a companion term program for Whap!. It is in Library 5 of AmigaUser, and I forget the exact title. You can locate it easily, though, if you go to Library 5 and type BRO BT* Please do ask whenever you have a question. We're all glad to pitch in and share whatever we know. Betty
#41610From: Bill Hardman/UKNov 24, 1991 5:41 PM
Betty, Thanks v much for the helpful reply. In my old C64 days I was a member of the UK ICPUG and often saw your name in the magazine. You are very highly regarded as the CBM guru, you know – not the meditation guru. I will give Whap! a try. I am very partial to Tapcis under MSDOS, so just as an alternative, would CrossDOS convert binary files downloaded to MSDOS disks to Amiga format? That would really give me the best of both worlds. Bill
#41692From: Betty Clay/SYSOPNov 25, 1991 10:49 AM
Bill, CrossDOS only permits you to read MS-DOS disks. It cannot make the executables work under AmigaDOS – sorry about that! It would be impossible, of course, to make it that easy to go between platforms. MS-DOS runs on an Intel 80xxx chip, and AMigaDOS runs on a Motorolo 68xxx chip, and the similarity between the two is minimal. You can get a Bridgeboard for the 2×00 or 3×00 Amigas and run Tapcis on that – or it would probably work if you got ATOnce if you are using a 500. Guru??? Me???? I think you are confusing me with Jim Butterfield. He's the only Commodore guru (pre-Amiga, that is) that I know! I do love my association with ICPUG, however, and I do write an Amiga column there each issue. Have you tried them since you have an Amiga? There are LOTS of Amiga users in ICPUG, and the journal is full of Amiga articles of high quality. Betty
#42023From: Bill Hardman/UKNov 29, 1991 3:41 PM
Betty, Thanks for the reply and sorry for calling you the Guru! I am actually running Tapcis now on the Amiga 500 with the KCS Power Board installed. What I meant was if I downloaded Amiga executables as binary files on to MS-DOS disks and then converted to AmigaDos – would they run? I know that MS-DOS can't run AmigaDos progs and vice versa but how if the MSDOS disk was merely the vehicle for downloading? Honestly, I am having so many problems with Amiga file compression. I have downloaded Whap! as Whp19g.lzh from CIX along with LHarc13 (uncompressed) which I have, as suggested, renamed lharc and placed in the C: directory of a bootdisk. Every time I try to run it I get "unable to load lharc: File is not an object module". This came from the ICPUG area on CIX so I should think the file is OK. What do you think could be going wrong here? BTW, I shall be re-joining ICPUG from January 1st. Bill (PS I don't want to go interactive on CIS so until I can get this Lharc/Whap problem sorted out I shall still be a PC user in disguise. Are you familiar with this KCS Board? I think Supra market it in the USA. I should think it's capacity to work through the Amiga serial port is as good a test as any of its capabilities.)
#42032From: Betty Clay/SYSOPNov 29, 1991 9:11 PM
Bill, I'm glad you will be getting back into ICPUG. I think they are a really neat group of people. There is a chance that I may get to visit some of them next spring! My only other visit to England was in 1988. At that time, I visited a show at the Novotel, and attended some club meetings at Portsmouth, Slough, Coventry, and Biggin Hill. Jim Butterfield was speaking at those meetings, so they were well attended. I really liked the people I met there. You can download Amiga software to your MS-DOS disks. You can even unpack it with MS-DOS versions of the archivers. When transferred to an AmigaDOS disk, they will run on the Amiga. I'm sorry I misunderstood your question before. I've done the reverse of this a number of times. I frequently download things to my Amiga disk, unpack with my Amiga unpackers, and then use CrossDOS to transfer the software to MS-DOS disks for my laptop and Bridgeboard. The programs have always run. I think you'll have no trouble. Are you using the right commands for LHARC? To use Whap! from a floppy, the floppy needs to be named Whap, so format a disk named WHAP and have it ready. Then, the LHARC commands would be: cd WHAP: lharc -m -x x path:WHP19G Lharc does not run – it just works on archives, and you have to give it the arguments to make it work. The switches have to be in lower case to work. The -m tells it to create new directories as needed without stopping to ask your permission; the -x tells it to preserve the directory structure; the x tells it to extract the file. Let us know if you still have problems, and be pretty specific about the messages you are getting. We can get through this, but it may take a couple of tries. Betty