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#Dealing with .ZIP files

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#41922From: Jeff PrattNov 28, 1991 2:33 AM
Help! I just downloaded some c source from the Science/Math forum, and it is a .ZIP file…. and I can't seem to locate an un-zip utility here or in Amigatech. There MUST be such an animal, no? I tried to get Whap! to find something by specifying "zip" as a keyword, and setting the Days-old value to 0, but got "no files found" — tried disk utilities, general utilities, comunications, and a couple of others… Thanks in advance. … a message Whap!'ed from scenic Boring, Oregon by Jeff P.
#41954From: Edward SwatschekNov 28, 1991 2:54 PM
The file you need is UNZIP.LZH in Lib 16(archivers/crunchers). Edward – via Whap!
#41981From: Betty Clay/SYSOPNov 28, 1991 9:38 PM
Look in Library 16 of AmigaUser. I found several, including: PKAZIP.LZH 16 67K 01-23-90 PKAZIP Version 1.01 – archiving utility UNZIP.LZH 16 61K 01-13-91 Unix Version of Unzip Of these, PKAZIP is a point and click program; UNZIP is a CLI-type. I prefer UNZIP, since I can follow the same pattern of making and cd-ing to the directory where I want the files, and then just type UNZIP path:filename. Betty
#41993From: Gord JeoffroyNov 28, 1991 11:39 PM
Jeff, Others have helped you regarding ZIP — I'm curious as to the C source you downloaded from SCIENCE. What's it for? What's the filename? I'm an amateur C programmer and quasi-professional ecologist, and I'd like to combine the two. –Gord
#42094From: Christopher TolmieNov 30, 1991 3:19 PM
PKAZip, the Amiga ZIP tool! ————————— Jeff, Look for PKAZIP.LZH in AmigaUser Library 16 Archivers/Crunchers. "PKAZip provides the Amiga user with a fully-Intuitionized tool written specifically for the Amiga. PKAZip provides COMPLETE support for the Amiga's file system while retaining compatibility with PKWare's PKZIP and PKUNZIP tools. PKAZip provides functions to create, examine, extract, test, modify, display and print files which are in the ZIP compressed format. PKAZip provides additional functions which support ZIP creation and extraction. It provides full support for recursive copy and delete to allow you to copy or delete any or all files in one or more directories and subdirectories. PKAZip will create directories as needed to support the copy operation and ZIP file creation…" excerpt from PKAZip Readme file. Chris
#42248From: Jeff PrattDec 2, 1991 1:23 AM
Chris, Thanks for the info. … a message Whap!'ed from scenic Boring, Oregon by Jeff P.
#42333From: Dale D. SnellDec 3, 1991 1:54 AM
Chris and Jeff, It's my understanding that PKAZIP is BROKEN (i.e., won't run at all) on A3000s, and is seriously crash-prone on any Amiga running 2.04. (Heck, it was buggy on a 2000 running 1.3.2.) There are some Zip/UnZip utilities around that are in better shape. Also, be aware that PKAZIP doesn't understand the latest version of .zip files. Moreover, PKWare has no intention of supporting the Amiga any more. Granted, the Intuition interface is pretty, and easy to use (though too busy for my taste). However, I'd rather have a cli-based program that worked, than a WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse, Pointer) program that doesn't. –dds (dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM) Whappeta-whappeta-Whap!
#42375From: Steve AhlstromDec 3, 1991 2:30 PM
Dale, More often than not PKAZIP will lockup a 3000 while it's decompressing a file. I use a small CLI variant (I don't know what it was originally called, I renamed it to unzip) that works pretty well except when handling embedded directory structures. -sja
#42705From: Dale D. SnellDec 7, 1991 2:41 AM
Steve, My understanding is that PKAZIP hangs when run on a 68030, since I've seen complaints from people with accellerated A2000s, as well as A3000s. There are at least two different non-PKWare Zip packages out for the Amiga. I picked one off Usenet not too long ago. I haven't done anything with it yet, since I don't use Zip for myself, and the boards I frequent don't use it much either. That one is written in C, I think (it's supposed to be portable to Unix systems), the other one that I've heard of is written in asm, and doesn't like 68030s. (Hmm… Seems to be a popular disease…) –dds (dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM) Whappeta-whappeta-Whap!
#42395From: Christopher TolmieDec 3, 1991 8:46 PM
Dale, I haven't had any problems using PKAzip and I've just recently downloaded some huge .zip files in DTPforum. One over 660K! It unpacked them just fine. What I like is the ease with which you can click on any zip file view its contents and read the text files without unpacking them. Then systematically select which file you want unpacked. It works for me and when it breaks, I'll go back to the CLI based utils. But until then… Chris
#42443From: Gary BrusanowskiDec 4, 1991 10:05 AM
Chris: You're the first Amigan I've heard praise PKAzip; it's about time. If everyone wasn't so hot on LZH on the Amiga, I'd use it religiously. An amazingly bullet-proof program and only 2 releases! Gary – Mirror Image Prod. (416) 495-7469, via WHAP!
#42542From: Steve AhlstromDec 5, 1991 12:05 PM
PKAZIP is anything but "bullet-proof". My opinion is that it's a piece of junk. It's also no longer supported. -sja
#42552From: SyndesisDec 5, 1991 5:21 PM
PKazip was developed by Dennis Hoffman, who (with his wife) runs the Safe Harbor mail order place. He once worked with Phil Katz in Milwaukee, so when the demand grew for an Amiga version, he got permission to make one. There was some kind of dispute between them later on, and now it's unsupported, and I doubt Dennis would ever improve it. I've had no trouble with it, really. What symptoms of problems do you see? I wish there was a user interface to LZH. Is there?
#42556From: Steve AhlstromDec 5, 1991 5:34 PM
John, The main problem with it is that on the 3000 it will crash the machine while decompressing — and of course invalidates the hard disk if it was writing at the time. I don't know of a specific graphical interface for LHARC, however many of the DirUtils support such an interface. I prefer CLI usage, but that has nothing to do with my dislike of PKAZIP — that has to do with frequent HD validations and _still_ not getting the file to fully decompress.
#42793From: Bruce HoinsDec 8, 1991 1:12 AM
John, Try Lharca if you want an lzh with a user interface. Bruce H. -Via Whap!
#42957From: Brian CowanDec 9, 1991 9:46 PM
Of course, it will freak out is you use a .LZH file compressed with LZ 1.8 and above…. Some IBM boards use LHA to compress message packets to be read offline, and if you use LHArcA to decompress the files, watch LHArcA go off into oblivion….. brian
#42706From: Dale D. SnellDec 7, 1991 2:41 AM
Chris, Here's a quick test for you. If you have a printer, disconnect it. Now, start up PKAZIP, and click on the PRINT gadget. Watch PKAZIP change the mouse pointer to the "ZZZ" cloud. Wait for the printer dwarf to pop up its little requester. Click on CANCEL. Watch PKAZIP stay busy. Repeat as necessary until tired of it. Reboot computer. 🙁 That was my first experience with PKAZIP. I'd hit the gadget by accident, and I didn't have a printer at the time. There was no way to get PKAZIP to stop the print process, or abort altogether, short of rebooting. I was *not* pleased. –dds (dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM) Whappeta-whappeta-Whap!
#42761From: Christopher TolmieDec 7, 1991 9:15 PM
Dale, I've never tried the print feature in PKAZIP. I do have a printer, but found having piles of .doc files printed a waste of paper. I prefer to read on-screen the docs and follow along with the program up and running. If the print feature is buggy don't use it. It does for me unzip and zip OK, until it won't work, I'll probably use it. I have no problem with CLI usage. I never had the LOADWB command in my s/startupsequence until I switched to WB2.04 and I'm thinking of making IT optional again! chris
#43161From: Dale D. SnellDec 12, 1991 12:05 AM
Chris, Like I said, I hit the print gadget by accident. I had to reboot the computer to shut the #!&^ program off. As soon as I get Portable ZIP running, PKAZIP is going to NIL:. As for the WB interface to PKAZIP, I consider it a nuisance. I'd rather have a CLI interface for that type of program anyway. Actually, the best thing would be both: A CLI-driven main program, and an Intuition front end that is separately callable. That way folks who like the WB can use it. I use both, a great deal. I often wind up with several shells and workbench operations running all at the same time. Makes things interesting, I've gotta admit! 🙂 I think that's one of the Amiga's great strengths, really, that it gives the user his or her choice of interfaces, not one or the other. –dds (dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM) Whappeta-whappeta-Whap!
#42398From: Charles FigueiredoDec 3, 1991 9:04 PM
Dale: > It's my understanding that PKAZIP is BROKEN (i.e., won't run at all) > on A3000s, and is seriously crash-prone on any Amiga running 2.04. PKAZIP does work if you run NOFASTMEM under WB2.04 and/or an A3000 Regards Charles
#42707From: Dale D. SnellDec 7, 1991 2:41 AM
Charles, In my book, any software that requires the use of NoFastMem is broken. The ONLY reason I've kept it around is to unzip the occasional .zip archive I get off of the boards. Since I just picked up a CLI version of Zip, the PK version is going to be erased Real Soon Now… –dds (dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM) Whappeta-whappeta-Whap!