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#Big Flaw in Sony Package

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#14960From: Greg KerrNov 22, 1991 5:44 PM
Phil, I don't remember the context of this thread and am not sure of the buffer size, probably 64k. The access time is too slow (500-600 ms) that I didn't even consider it… Greg There is 1 Reply.
#14972From: Phil SchumanNov 23, 1991 3:14 AM
does MPC have a spec for access time as well as data transfer… again, I wonder how the nec-36 compares to the sony 7205 bundle… There is 1 Reply.
#15001From: Greg KerrNov 23, 1991 4:36 PM
Phil, Yes, the specs say <1 sec access time (way too high), 150k/sec transfer rate (almost every one can do that). One item not mentioned, but which many people (including myself) are getting burned on, is the buffer size. I don't know if the NEC drive is completely MPC-compatible (it's too slow anyway) but I KNOW the Sony bundle is NOT. Do not get it if you want to do MM Windows right away. They have mentioned some sort of upgrade in about 5 mos. Greg There are 2 Replies.
#15009From: Robert B. WilsonNov 23, 1991 7:39 PM
Can you elaborate on what you know of the "upgrade in about 5 months"? I just got their package, and I am quite impressed with it, even running NG Mammals (the video is not totally smooth, but it certainly is good enough for this application). There are packages with soundboards & MPC compatible drives for about $700, but they have just one or two disks (albeit good ones). I opted for more software now, and a possible upgrade to truly MPC compatible when the bank account recovers… There is 1 Reply.
#15124From: Greg KerrNov 28, 1991 10:01 PM
Robert, As far as the Sony "upgrade", the people I talked to didn't know exactly what it would cover, so who knows? Probably an increase in the buffer or sumpthin'. Greg
#15055From: John Spragens Jr.Nov 25, 1991 9:12 PM
Re: buffer size in the NEC portable … Just got a catalog from CD ROM, Inc., which has a centerfold ad on NEC drives. The Intersect CDR-36 (the portable) specs include: 500 ms average access time 150 KB/sec data transfer rate 64 KB cache memory Specs for the non-portable CDR-73 and -83 show 300 ms access, same transfer rate, same size cache. There is 1 Reply.
#15126From: Greg KerrNov 28, 1991 10:04 PM
John, Yeah, put the -73 and -83 still apparently don't do video too well. But then again, PC Rag said that and their article on CD-ROM drives was confusing and misleading… Greg There is 1 Reply.
#15129From: John Spragens Jr.Nov 28, 1991 11:45 PM
If the NECs don't do video well, even with a 64K cache and good access times, what's the trick? I'm hoping to buy a CD-ROM drive in the next six months or so, and it would sure be nice to be able to tell from looking at the specs whether a drive would do video or not. If you can't tell from the specs, I'd sure like to find a review that judges the drives on their presentation of animation. Seen anything good? There is 1 Reply.
#15131From: Greg KerrNov 29, 1991 12:27 AM
John, That's the thing – it's becoming apparent that you can't tell just from the specs. There are really only a couple of guidelines that seem to work. First, check around to see if anyone has tried a particular drive with MM Windows and know what they're talking about. Second, I BELIEVE that all MPC-compatible devices will have a sticker attached (like the titles themselves that are starting to show up, i.e. – Multimedia Beethoven) or they can claim, legally, that they are "MPC-compatible". At any rate, I'll be trying out the Toshiba 3301 this weekend and will try to let you know how it goes. Others are using the drive (even with Mammals) and seem to be quite satisfied. Finally, all of this is still relatively new. I think in the coming months you'll see everyone (including magazine reviewers) get a handle on what is going on and it should be easier to tell what will work and what won't. Good luck… Greg There is 1 Reply.
#15142From: John Spragens Jr.Nov 29, 1991 5:49 AM
Will be interested to hear how the Toshiba works. Sounds like it's a good thing I don't have money burning holes in my pocket right now. Maybe by the time I'm ready to buy, the choices will be clearer.
#15204From: John O'DonnellDec 1, 1991 10:54 AM
re: video problems with NEC-73/83 CD-ROM….believe it. an NEC owner.
#15171From: Ian EvansNov 30, 1991 3:33 AM
A centrefold ad…you mean…naked CD drives. I think my scsi card is too young for that.