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#Best CD-ROM's?

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#31468From: Bruce De VriesNov 22, 1992 3:02 PM
David, I'm a freelance reviewer of CD-ROM and multimedia products. I am willing to offer some suggestions if you can help me better identify your needs. For reference the best are Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia, Microsoft Bookshelf and The Oxford English Dictionary. Street Atlas USA is OK for maps, but note that the map data is not current and also contains some errors. If you would buy a street map that's newest data is from '90 then go for it. They also (if you have really deep pockets $495) have Map Expert with more features. I you write in C get the C User Library. Most of the CD-ROM games are warmed over disk based titles, so use caution there. The main benefit of a CD-ROM based game is usually better sound and less hard disk requirements. There are also some good GIF collections out there. Danger Hot Stuff is an inexpensive collection of GIF's, FLI's and music that will really show of your PC. Sound Blaster compatible card recommended. Want to know what was sent on the Voyager? Get Murmurs of Earth (highly recommended). Dessert Storm will give you Time Magazine's coverage of the War in the Persian Gulf in text, sound and pictures. Corel Draw is good for art and desktop publishing. For other suggestions and reviews on many CD-ROMs call Resource International Publishing's BBS at (817)582-0672. Shop the Swap meets for best prices. Happy shopping! Bruce
#31489From: David MorgenlenderNov 22, 1992 10:12 PM
Bruce, Thanks for the suggestions. As far as my actual needs, I suspect they'll be met, at least initially, by the Windows SDK (which I already have), MS Bookshelf (my "free" application with my Gateway system), MS Developer Network (which I already have), & some others I can't think of at the moment. I'm now thinking about what other CD-ROMs won't be strictly needs, but which will become very useful (like my laserprinter, fax, etc. … they each seemed to be toys when I bought them, but soon became indispensable). I'm also thinking about which will be just plain fun to use; they could be games, or actually useful … although the primary intent would be for the joy of using them. What's the C User Library? BTW, I bought a SoundblasterPro on sale at Egghead. Dave
#31545From: Bruce De VriesNov 23, 1992 7:30 PM
The C User Library is a collection of user supported C source code from the C Users Group library and C Users Journal up to 10/92. Walnut Creek CDROM 1547 Palos Verdes, Suite 260 Walnut Creek, CA 94596-2228 (800) 786-9907 or (510) 947-5996 $49.95
#31557From: Albert DayesNov 23, 1992 9:51 PM
There is C USERS JOURNAL source code in the Computer Language forum too. (GO CLMFORUM)
#31792From: David LlewellynNov 26, 1992 9:53 PM
Hi! I'd have to admit great disappointment in the quality of CD-ROM material. The Compton encyclopedia is laughable. It might be good for 5 year olds but its no serious source of info. For example, you get to a screen (all text mode, of course) with a list of composers. Each composer has one audio piece, of about 20 seconds each, and full of awful static like its recorded on a 100-year old record player. USA Atlas, World Atlas… possibly even more useless. You get a map of the USA. If you bug say California you get a map of (guess what) California. You bug L.A., but you don't get a map of LA. You get a (text mode of course) screen full of info like its population and that they have a movie industry. Like Wow! This stuff is so amateurish that if you haven't got a good reason to buy a CD-ROM, such as loading Microsoft's NT development kit, save your money and go out to a few symphonies or visit LA in person or what have you. – David
#31815From: Bruce De VriesNov 27, 1992 2:20 AM
David, I think you are expecting too much of Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia though I admit quality can be greatly improved. The CD-ROM has a total capacity of 650 Megabytes of data or about 75 minutes of 44.1 Khz digital audio, but not both. I believe Comptons chose to use WAV format files sampled at 11 Khz for much of the audio, so they would have room for the text and pictures. They did this to maintain compatibility with low end systems. MPC compatability initially required that the software work correctly on a 16 Mhz 286. This has since been changed to a 16 Mhz 386 SX. If you read the articles on the composers you would have found a decent amount of information on each of them. No, it wouldn't have been as much as would be in a biography on the composer or even as much as is contained in the printed encyclopedia by the same company, Encyclopedia Briticannica. Multimedia is new and a lot of stuff put into Comptons is more of a sales gimic than something of practical value. Many of the pictures and animations have little value too, but they increase the picture count statistic for the sales and marketing types. Remember Microsoft dedicated an entire CD-ROM to Beethoven's 9 th Symphony. I don't work for Compton's I'm a freelance CD-ROM reviewer. It seems you want the equivilant of Street Atlas World and the Library of Congress on one CD-ROM. If you maintain those expectations you will be greatly disappointed with every CD-ROM you examine. I think CD-ROM's offer great promise and currently provide some very handy research tools plus they can be a lot of fun.
#31843From: Steve ParkerNov 27, 1992 11:40 AM
>> It seems you want the equivilant of Street Atlas World and the Library of Congress on one CD-ROM. << I didn't get that impression by reading David's criticisms. Furthermore, being the owner of a CD-ROM player, but yet to have purchased any disks, I'm happy to hear about David's experience. So far I haven't come across much good information about the software that is available now, and it all looks pretty pricey. As far as your points are concerned, I hope you don't waffle as much in your reviews as you did in this post.
#31862From: Christopher GroverNov 27, 1992 6:42 PM
Hello, PMJI– I have to agree with Bruce on at least a couple of points. It is awfully easy to have unrealistic expectations when it comes to CD-ROM. I've also been disappointed in some titles that haven't lived up to dreams, but we're dealing with a relative immature area of personal computing. It is going to take some time to develop quality standards. I'm not at all ready to write off the whole field. There are some great products out there which make me think we're going to see some real quality products in the future. Unlike anything we've yet had on our desktops. As for Compton's, I haven't had a chance to explore it yet. I always had the impression that it WAS an encyclopedia for children. Am I wrong? I'm interested in getting a good CD-ROM encyclopedia. Any suggestions? Any bets the Microsoft's Encarta will be the one to get? –Christopher
#31873From: Sutjahjo NgaserinNov 27, 1992 8:51 PM
Far from perfect but I am quite impressed with the encyclopaedia that comes with Microsoft Bookshelf, definitely better than Crompton's, which I use less often. No, Crompton's is not a Children encyclopaedia, although they may have one for children.
#31889From: Frank HarrisNov 27, 1992 10:43 PM
My two cents come to this. How many $99 street price products have you come upon that contain the amount of information that CE V.5.0 contain? Can you tell me of an equivalent atlas product for the $40 that we sell the US and World Atlas for? Name an equivalent product for ProPhone where you can find all the names addresses and SIC codes. Have you seen "The Animals"? Sherlock HOlmes Consulting detective?, How about Cinemania? We carry over 600 titles some good, some not so good, but all of them deserve to be evaluated as individual works irrespective of their media. As to their price I sell CDs for better prices than their equivalent disk media counterparts. Frank Harris Computron, Ltd.