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Old Commodore CBM & PET

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#79697From: Mike SchillerNov 30, 1992 9:13 PM
Well folks, I just got 2 machines given to me, and one of them is broken, so I thought somebody that's nostalgic, and a hardware type might be interested in it. It's an original Commodore PET, complete with the chicklet keyboard, and built in tape drive. I have no idea what's wrong with it, but if anyone wants it, (FREE) just holler. If I don't get any response to this message, the machine gets sacraficed to the dumpster god within the next couple of days! The other machine I got is a Commodore CBM 8032, complete with 80 column monitor built in, BASIC 4.0 in ROM, etc. This machine appears to be working, and I also have the dual disk drive unit for it, but it's sort of in pieces, and might not work. If anyone can tell me if it's still possible to get ANY software for the 8032, or any other peripherals for it, PLEASE let me know, as I'd like to use it, even if it's an antique (I used to drive my Model T daily too!). // -Mike Schiller \X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#79742From: Robert HayesDec 1, 1992 2:13 AM
Mike, if you want to pay the shipping to get it off of your floor, you can send it to me. I might be able to fix it. It may be possible to get software for the 8032 – put a note up on the antique computer forum. (I forget its name, but there is one). Bob
#79754From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPDec 1, 1992 7:06 AM
Mike….I've got some PET software here, so we can get together sometime and check that PET out. There's a fuse on the back….did you check that? Steve
#79969From: Mike SchillerDec 2, 1992 8:48 PM
Steve: Well, on the 8032 there's a fuse in the fuseholder, on the PET there's just a hole in the case where a fuseholder should be. Perhaps that's the problem? Did PET software run on the 8032? If so, did it have any problems because the screensize is different? // -Mike Schiller \X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#79993From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 2, 1992 10:43 PM
BASIC software for the PET will run on the 8032, but anything written in machine language will not. The screen size difference does distort the display, but you can get a program that will put the 40-column display down the center of the 8032 screen and it will look normal. —Betty
#80114From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPDec 3, 1992 5:58 PM
Well, that missing fuse is a problem, I'd say. Have you opened up the PET yet? Does it seem to be anything else missing? I'm not sure about the 8032. I never owned one. Steve
#79762From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 1, 1992 8:45 AM
Mike, there is a place in Illinois that sells software and other things for the 8032. I never thought I'd forget the name of that place, but I have. It's something Music Shop, of all things! Anyway, if you ask over on CBMAPP, they can give you the name and phone number. I gave my three 8032/8096 machines to a church only a few months ago, and gave them all the software I had to go along with it. I had WordPro4+ (word processor) and PaperClip (better word processor), SuperBASE (the fore-runner of the Amiga and PC SuperBASE, and written by the same people), and VisiCalc, an assembler, an Eprom burner, and quite a few other nice little things. I also still have a 6-pen color plotter with a cable and software that lets it run with those machiens or with a C-64. I overlooked that when I was packing up all the stuff. Also, that music store sells a complete accounting package whose name I've forgotten, but it was pretty good. Completely integrated package with accounts payable, accounts receivable, general ledger, inventory, job costing, and maybe more. I know that I spent most of a summer getting that package going for a swimming pool company in Dallas, and was rather impressed with it once I figured it all out. It was a bit slow, but extremely accurate and very hard to make a mistake. There was a time when it was recommended highly by lots of CPA's because it was so accurate and fool-proof. But slow – written in BASIC, mostly with POKE's as best I can recall. Anyway, drop over to CBMAPP and talk with them about your 8032. It's a neat computer. I loved mine, and was sorry to part with them, but needed the room. Is your drive an 8050 or a 4040? They work the same way. I still have a few of the manuals for those drives, I think. Not that they help a great deal. Commodore's manuals have improved tremendously since those days. You should have a Pet-to-IEEE cable that goes from the center of the back of the computer to the disk drive. After that, you use IEEE-2-IEEE cables <continued>
#79964From: Mike SchillerDec 2, 1992 8:46 PM
Betty: The drive is the is an 8050. I hope I can get it (the drive) working, as it's partially taken apart, with the #1 drive just sitting in the box unhooked. The #0 drive appears to be installed ok, so perhaps if I can't use the 1 drive I could still use the 0 drive. I was thinking of hooking it up to my Amiga, and using it as a sort of smart terminal, as I recall from when I had my PETs (I had 2 of them, one an original with tape drive, the other was a full size KB CBM model) there is an RS232<->IEEE488 adapter that I think was made specially for the PET. Do you happen to have a manual on the 8032 as well? I notice that the available connectors on it differ from the PET 2001, and as I only vaguely remember those, I'm sure I don't have any idea what these are! When I had my CBM I had it complete with the original sequential access dual floppy drive unit, and the C= IEEE488 printer, do you happen to remember the model numbers of those units? Strangly enough I think my daughter seems to like the 8032 better than either my Amiga, or our (more hers than mine) CDTV. I'm not sure, but I think the reason for this is that my Amiga is MY Amiga, and the CDTV doesn't look enough like a computer for her, whereas the 8032 she's already started calling HER computer! (of course I don't mine, and if I can either get the 8050 going, or replace it, and get some of the educational software that I remember was around years ago, she might have lots of fun with it). It's funny, this week seems to be my nostolgia week, as I got the 8032, waking some (hopefully more soon) memories of my first computer, and I bought another car, a 1984 Ford LTD, that's almost identical to a car I owned back in 1985! // -Mike Schiller \X/ AMIGA! On AutoPilot in sunny Fort Lauderdale
#79992From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 2, 1992 10:43 PM
Mike, I still have my TRANSACTOR's Commodore InnerSpace Anthology somewhere, but when I reached for it just now, it had hidden itself. I believe the original dual floppy was a 2040. It had one extra sector on the outer group of tracks that the 4040 and subsequent drives of that format type did not have, which made it slightly incompatible with the others and caused lots of problems for people who tried to write to disks using both kinds of drives. I cannot think of the numbers of the printers at the moment, but can find out. My club still has a complete set of the 60 or so educational disks that Commodore put out about 1982. You can run those on the 8032, but they were made for the 40-column screen, so you have to run a program first that puts all the text in the middle 40 columns. It is included on each of the disks. As a matter of fact, my club has just about everything that was ever released in public domain for those machines. Our Classic Commodore Interest Group maintains that library, and still provides support for people who have the machines. —Betty
#79763From: Betty Clay/SYSOPDec 1, 1992 8:45 AM
to daisy-chain other devices. Be aware that the port on the back is not a true RS232. You have to have a special adapter before you can use a modem on it. My computer club has a very active group of people who still have and love those machines. People from lots of other clubs (IBM, APPLE, MAC, etc.) love to come down and play with them, because that was where they started with computers. —Betty
#79925From: Paul WrightDec 2, 1992 5:08 PM
There was an emulator that let the 8032 run regular PET software. Screen remap was all that was necessary and it worked well. Don't know where you'd find either PET or 8032 software though. I loved them both but gave them up for the color and bitmapped graphics gods. —–Paul—–