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#High school ACAD

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#65536From: roger cussonNov 8, 1993 10:01 PM
Could anyone in this section shead any light on teaching AutoCAD in the high school environment? I'm doing some writing on teacher strategies for teaching AutoCAD and have never had the opportunity <?, :).. ) of teaching to high school students. what are the problems er… I mean challenges. with this teaching environment re: students, administrators, curricula, etc…. How does theahing HS students differ from teaching say college students? Thanks in advance Roger C@V
#65621From: BelliottNov 9, 1993 10:27 AM
Boy, Roger….. It seems like you best resource would be Pat Vernon. The man's a maniac with those High School students. He'll probably reply to your request. Hit Return…Bill Elliott !^NavFont01F0007MGHHG9CB909
#65720From: Pat Vernon [ATC TM]Nov 9, 1993 7:12 PM
Bill and Roger, And anyone else reading this. I need some help here on MM expansion kits, Sound Cards, CD Drives, Screen savers for acad or dos, and last but not least— CNC software that highschools can handle. We finally tackled a used Bridgeport Type 1 j mill that has been retrofit with a Centroid controller. looks good and it was a donation. What software is easiest and integrates with Acad12.
#65719From: Pat Vernon [ATC TM]Nov 9, 1993 7:12 PM
WELL Rog, I was laying back here to let others have some input. I have no secrets and i am sure there are lots of good people out there so I will wait. The big problem is money age motivating lessons/ projects and admin issues. sound familiar<g> I will share/ bare all in NYC in VR PAT
#65728From: Ron PaulaNov 9, 1993 7:56 PM
I've been teaching Autocad in the high schools since Ver. 2.02A 1983. I started in the Boston area and was there for 18 years before being laid off. My whole dept. got the ax (1989) to balance the budget that year. I am now in northern Vermont (know of any warmer places the winters are toooooooo long here!!!) teaching Autocad rel.12 and one computer animation class. I also teach adults nights and train privately to area companies.Teaching is great!! the administrators and state Ed dept. though is another matter. They have no idea what kind of time is needed to maintain a C.A.D. lab. And if they happen to teach in Vermont they can plan on many hours of paper chasing to justify someone in the state dept who has lost touch with being in the classroom. Just an example my dept head has never taught he was a professional student for 40 years in Pennsylvania, before moveing to Vermont into an administrative position. He lacks people skills but he is behind the program. As for teaching problems I can only say know your software get frequent training. The AutoCAD program partners is an excellent way to see what other teacher are doing. You might try Autodesk Learning Systems Group Wayne Hodgins is the manager ask for "The Pedagogical Guide" and the "Instructor Development Guide" both will go into depth on all your questions. I think for myself the biggest problem I face not counting the fore mentioned is the fact that I have to teach basic drafting skills; not useing drafting equipment but how the solving of multiview projection, sectioning, auxiliary view etc. the same time as the student are learning the software. What I am doing at the present time and would be interested in what others are doing is this. I rewrote the course of study as follows CAD I half year (I have over 100 students signed up but only 12 computers) I teach 4-6 classes in CAD I during the year. They only get 2D and how to use the software Many could pass the AutoCAD Certification Exam after this course. Their homework is in basic blueprint reading. CAD II full year this year I have 2 classes.The first half of the year is 2D design the sectioning auxiliary view etc. using the sofware. The second half of the year is 3D then onto AME. Their final projects will be rendered and animated. These are mechanical design projects not architectural in nature. CAD III (one class) deals with Architecture both rel 12 and ASG Architectural software will be used. Final projects to include walk through and fly-by animations. Cad IV is title Advanced Topics of CAD (one class this year) this class deals with creating custom menus for the area of engineering of their choice.
#65729From: Ron PaulaNov 9, 1993 7:56 PM
[Continued] basic blueprint reading. Cad II full year I have 2 classes this year. The first 1/2 of the year is 2d design the sectioning, auxiliary views etc. using the software. The second half of the year is 3D then on to AME. Their final projects will be rendered and animated. These are mechanical design projects not architectural in nature. CAD III (1 class) deals qith Architecture using both rel 12 and ASG Architectural software. Final projects to include walk through and fly-by animations. CAD IV is titled Advanced Topics of CAD (1 class) these students will create custom menus for the area of engineering of their choice. One last bit of info the Software belongs to me not the school. We are without a budget so I have bought the software rel. 12 AutoCAD, Animator Pro, ASG Core, Architecture, Vertex Dynamic Detailer and I wrote a grant for 3D Studio. The school owns AutoCAD rel 11. If I can help further let me know. Also I really would like to relocate away from Vermont.!! <g>
#65739From: roger cussonNov 9, 1993 9:17 PM
Ron.. Thanks for your response. so in a High school you are looking at a three year program to get through CAD 1-4 ? Also if I read you properly you also do not work with students that have any exposure to manual drafting techniques. ie orthographic projections, sections, etc…? How do you classes work? ie how long are the courses and the classes in terms of hours. How do you manage 100 students in a 12 computer lab? how "open" is your lab. or do you only have lab time assigned to a class. I am trying to get a feel for High school instruction Its for a writting project I've undertaken… And this helps quite a bit thanks… Roger C@V